The truth about how ISPs chasing bandwidth doesn't mean squat

"My 25mbs link is most probably faster than other people's 1gbps."

I can relate with that quote... I'm on a 25Mb line, but since enabling (and tweaking) "fq-codel" QoS on my MikroTik router, I feel like I'm on a 100Mb line even while downloads are pumping at full line speed. I think in 90% of cases where people get a 100Mbps or higher connection speed, they probably wouldn't need half of that if they had a proper home router setup with a good QoS algo. (not the usual tp-link, netgear, planet, d-link etc crap, but rather something like a MikroTik routerboard, ubiquiti USG, or even a custom-built PfSense / CHR router)

One of the leading reasons people go for higher speeds is because they don't want an unresponsive connection while someone else is downloading, especially if they're a gamer and dont want any latency lag. All of that can be fixed with the right type of modern QoS implementation, to the point that 25Mb can be *comfortably* adequate for an average family home of ~2-5 people.

Not so great for ISP's who would probably like to contend the service, but that's their problem lol

I found this guy's enthusiastic talk on the subject particularly pertinent -
 
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fragtion said:
"My 25mbs link is most probably faster than other people's 1gbps."

I can relate with that quote... I'm on a 25Mb line, but since enabling (and tweaking) "fq-codel" QoS on my MikroTik router, I feel like I'm on a 100Mb line even while downloads are pumping at full line speed. I think in 90% of cases where people get a 100Mbps or higher connection speed, they probably wouldn't need half of that if they had a proper home router setup with a good QoS algo. (not the usual tp-link, netgear, planet, d-link etc crap, but rather something like a MikroTik routerboard, ubiquiti USG, or even a custom-built PfSense / CHR router)

One of the leading reasons people go for higher speeds is because they don't want an unresponsive connection while someone else is downloading, especially if they're a gamer and dont want any latency lag. All of that can be fixed with the right type of modern QoS implementation, to the point that 25Mb can be *comfortably* adequate for an average family home of ~2-5 people.

Not so great for ISP's who would probably like to contend the service, but that's their problem lol
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I only speak for myself. A proper Mikrotik optimized is amazing, but in the end, if I want to play Forza 5 with friends tonight I don't want to have to wait 7 hours to download it @ 25 Mbps when I can download the same game in 21 Mins @ 500 Mbps. Sometimes it's that simple. My line idles majority of the day but when I need it I don't want to wait 8 hours for a large game.

[XC] Oj101 said:
I don't have time to watch now, but what do you mean by this? Unless you can get download speeds exceeding 22 MB/s, my 200 Mbps line is faster? Or do you mean latency?
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Some people upgrade to better speeds thinking it will improve their browsing, where as a optimized router would make a slower connection feel just as good if not better.
 
Cactus said:
Some people upgrade to better speeds thinking it will improve their browsing, where as a optimized router would make a slower connection feel just as good if not better.
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Ah, right. Line speed alone has basically zero effect on browsing once you exceed ~20Mbps.
 
r00igev@@r said:
My 25mbs link is most probably faster than other people's 1gbps.

https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/what_are_the_real_costs_of_fiber/
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In what use case? that is key. Ill take the 1Gbps if my job was moving 4K streams around for example-massive time saving. Multiple live 4k streams, 25Mbps not going to cut it no matter which way you look at it.

David has done amazing work. But there are two different sides to this no?- if you bandwidth constrained and/or it costs a ton to provide more bandwidth then it makes perfect sense, you will want to optimize, like he is advocating and doing-provide a good experience while saturated. But these cases are becoming more rare, especially in SA.

At $4300 per home to roll out FTTH they must be using gold coated fibres in USA, that is ridiculously expensive and points to their core issue-get rid of the red tape-people are good at solving problems.
 
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