The Unrest in Egypt Thread 2013

Diplomacy, you say? Here, read again... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood_in_Egypt

al nusra has you all fired up in the Syrian thread...compare what you learn in the above link, with al nusra ideology...c'mon.

Not the same thing, read what al nusra believes. You cannot compare. Egypt is a prime example as are many countries that removing the so called bad guys just allows the people the chance to finally kill each other.

Stop intervening, stop removing dictators. It doesn't work. Egypt have gone 4 steps backwards since muburak was forced out. You know what was odd lightscribe is that obama was seemingly in support of morsi. Odd thing is morsi hated israel, why was obama demanding the release of someone who hates israel?

Why is obama trying to remove the syrian government opening israel up to al nusra. The troubling thing is benjamin might be missing something that seems like a conspiracy to everyone and he may be putting israel in harms way by removing someone who posed 0 threat to them, al nusra however well car bombs, suicide bombers and they are good at it. Once lebanon falls israel will be surrounded by some of most epic fighters i have ever seen. They are cold well trained killers who hate everyone. Anyways maybe israel has an agreement with them but i can't see how anyone with a brain would make a deal with jihadists.
 
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Not the same thing, read what al nusra believes. You cannot compare. Egypt is a prime example as are many countries that removing the so called bad guys just allows the people the chance to finally kill each other.

Let's see...

Platform and goals

The Brotherhood itself describes the "principles of the Muslim Brotherhood" as including firstly the introduction of the Islamic Shari`ah as "the basis controlling the affairs of state and society;" and secondly work to unify "Islamic countries and states, mainly among the Arab states, and liberating them from foreign imperialism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood_in_Egypt

and...

In April 2013, the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq released an audio statement announcing that Jabhat al-Nusra is its branch in Syria.

Ideology

The group is generally described as being made up of Sunni Islamist Jihadists. Its goal is to overthrow the Assad government and to create a Pan-Islamic state under sharia law and aims to reinstate the Islamic Caliphate.[19] It encourages all Syrians to take part in the war against the Syrian government.[20]

In an interview with a UAE newspaper, Abu Ahmed, a man identifying himself as the Al Nusra military commander for the Hasakah Governorate, described the organisation's goals as deposing Bashar al-Assad, and then establishing a state under the Quran and sharia.[21] Alcohol, tobacco and entertainment considered immoral would be banned, but the rules would be introduced gradually and after giving people advice first.

Members of the group are accused of attacking the religious beliefs of non-Sunnis in Syria, including the Alawis.[22]

Members of the group have referred to the United States and Israel as enemies of Islam[22] and warned against Western intervention in Syria.[19] Syrian members of the group claim they are only fighting the Assad government and would not attack Western states.[19] The United States accused it of being affiliated with al-Qaeda in Iraq;[23] in April 2013 the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq released an audio statement affirming this connection.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

Look like ducks, talk like ducks and walk like ducks. It's ducks. They're quacking about a caliphate...

Stop intervening, stop removing dictators. It doesn't work. Egypt have gone 4 steps backwards since muburak was forced out.

Worked in their favor 1st time...

The Brotherhood has been criticized (or noted) for being "on the sidelines" early in the January–February 2011 uprising that overthrew Hosni Mubarak, despite having much to gain from a freer political environment.[35] (Reportedly the Brotherhood were told that the state security agency would arrest supreme guide Mohammed Badie if any Brethren participated.[1]) However, the revolution legalized the Brotherhood[4] and it has "emerged as the most powerful group" in Egypt.

Worked against them later...

The Tamarod (rebellion) movement campaigned to collect signatures calling for Morsi to step down. On 29 June, it announced it had collected more than 22 million signatures.[55][56] A day later millions of protesters demonstrated across Egypt both against and in support of Morsi.[57]

You know what was odd lightscribe is that obama was seemingly in support of morsi. Odd thing is morsi hated israel, why was obama demanding the release of someone who hates israel?

Why is obama trying to remove the syrian government opening israel up to al nusra. The troubling thing is benjamin might be missing something that seems like a conspiracy to everyone and he may be putting israel in harms way by removing someone who posed 0 threat to them, al nusra however well car bombs, suicide bombers and they are good at it. Once lebanon falls israel will be surrounded by some of most epic fighters i have ever seen. They are cold well trained killers who hate everyone. Anyways maybe israel has an agreement with them but i can't see how anyone with a brain would make a deal with jihadists.

You know what's odd? How you keep saying the MB are not terrorists, or were made to become terrorists, when that's what they were from the start.

Anyhow, stop trying to over analyze every little thing, or trying to put your every thought and counter thought, down here. People are trying to follow the story and opinions on it, not just your story and your opinions on your story.
 
Morsi Supporters Protest across country

Supporters of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood and the nation's ousted president are protesting across the country against the military-backed government.

Thousands of protesters flowed out of mosques after Friday prayers in the cities of Ismailiya, Suez, Assiut, Alexandria and the capital Cairo, among others.

The protesters chanted "down with military rule" and waved Egyptian flags. Others held up pictures of toppled President Mohammed Morsi, who was ousted by the military in a July 3 coup after mass protests against him.

The Brotherhood called Friday's protests for "the people to protect the revolution," in reference to the uprising that ousted longtime autocratic ruler Hosni Mubarak in early 2011.

Protests have been smaller in recent weeks following bloodshed in mid-August that killed more than 1,000 people, most of them Morsi supporters.


Source : Sapa-AP /lk
Date : 06 Sep 2013 13:46
 
Egypt army presses Sinai operation as Jihadists claim Cairo Bomb

Egyptian military helicopters hit militants in Sinai on Sunday as an Al-Qaeda inspired group in the peninsula claimed credit for a bombing that targeted the interior minister last week.

The Ansar Beit al-Maqdis group said in a statement one of its suicide bombers was behind Thursday's blast in Cairo targeting the convoy of interior minister Mohamed Ibrahim, who survived the attack.

Its statement, posted on jihadist forums, came as military helicopters launched air strikes for a second day on suspected militant hideouts in north Sinai, witnesses said.

The military has poured troops and armour into Sinai to quell an insurgency that surged after the army overthrew Islamist president Mohamed Morsi on July 3.

The army described the operation as "the largest military operation to purge Sinai of terrorism".

The military has so far killed "nine terrorists" and destroyed militant hideouts and weapons depots, said army spokesman Colonel Ahmed Aly in a statement on Facebook.

It was not immediately possible to authenticate the statement by Ansar Beit al-Maqdis -- Partisans of Jerusalem in English -- which was accompanied by what appeared to be still images of the bombing that targeted Ibrahim.

"God has allowed your brothers in Ansar Beit al-Maqdis to shatter the security organisation of the murderer Mohammed Ibrahim through a martyrdom operation," the group said in the statement, pledging further attacks.

The group blamed Ibrahim and army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi for the killings of hundreds of Islamist supporters of president Mohamed Morsi, overthrown by the military in a popularly backed coup on July 3.

"We call on all Muslims in Egypt to stay away from all military and interior ministry installations to preserve their lives," it added.

If proven, the group's claim would show it has the reach to strike in Egypt's capital and elsewhere in the country even as the military engages it and other jihadist groups in Sinai.

Militants in Sinai had limited their attacks to the peninsula and neighbouring Israel, bombing tourist resorts in south Sinai between 2004 and 2006, and had never before claimed credit for attacks elsewhere in Egypt.

Militants have launched almost daily attacks on the security forces since the military overthrew Morsi.

Deadly violence had surged in the peninsula after former president Hosni Mubarak was toppled in a popular uprising in 2011, creating a security vacuum.

For years Sinai has defied the central government's authority, with its Bedouin population complaining of poverty and discrimination.

The surge in militant attacks there and elsewhere around the country has raised fears of a revival of the Islamist insurgency that plagued Egypt in the 1990s.

On Tuesday, the military staged intense strikes in the Sinai which a security source described as the "biggest aerial assault of its kind" in the peninsula.

On August 19, militants killed 25 policemen in the Sinai, the deadliest attack on security forces in the country in years.

The army has killed around 100 Islamists in the area over the past two months, and the militants killed 58 policemen, 21 soldiers and 17 civilians there, according to an AFP tally.

The army, meanwhile, continued demolishing smuggling tunnels to Gaza, with a security official saying on Sunday more than 90 percent of the tunnels have now been destroyed.

The tunnels have been a lifeline for the flow of food, clothing, building materials and fuel into the impoverished territory, which Israel has blockaded since 2006.

In February, Hamas said it had closed hundreds of tunnels used for smuggling in Rafah.


Source : Sapa-AFP /mm
Date : 08 Sep 2013 21:02
 
Attacks in Sinai kill 4

A series of attacks in Egypt's restive Sinai peninsula over the past 24 hours, mostly against soldiers, killed at least four people, security officials said on Tuesday.

The violence comes as the Egyptian military presses its campaign in Sinai to quell an insurgency that surged after the army overthrew Islamist president Mohamed Morsi on July 3.

Two people were killed and 10 others, including one soldier, were wounded when clashes erupted between troops and supporters of Morsi in the town of Bir al-Abed.

In a separate incident, one soldier was killed and two wounded when a rocket-propelled grenade struck an army checkpoint on the road to the airport next to the regional capital of El-Arish.

Unknown gunmen near the Suez canal killed another soldier, and three others were wounded in separate attacks in the region, security officials and medics said.

The military has poured troops and armour into Sinai to put down the insurgency and in recent days it has launched sustained air raids targeting militant hideouts.

The army has described its campaign as "the largest military operation to purge Sinai of terrorism".

Militants have launched near-daily attacks on security forces since Morsi's ouster.

Deadly violence rose in the peninsula after former president Hosni Mubarak was toppled in a popular uprising in 2011, creating a security vacuum.


Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 10 Sep 2013 10:47
 
Suicide Bombing hits Security HQ in Sinai

Egyptian officials say a suicide bomber has rammed his explosives-laden car into the security headquarters in a border town in Sinai, killing at least one person.

The security officials say the front of the one-story building in the town of Rafah has collapsed and that an unspecified number of troops and policemen are buried underneath.

They say the bomber drove into the building at high speed on Wednesday. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak to the media.

Militants in Sinai, some with links to al-Qaida, have been targeting for months Egyptian forces in the strategic peninsula bordering Gaza and Israel. Their attacks have become much more frequent, and deadly, since the ouster in July of Egypt's Islamist president Mohammed Morsi.


Source : Sapa-AP /pk
Date : 11 Sep 2013 09:37
 
Egypt Court Acquits Police over Protestor Deaths

An Egyptian court has acquitted 10 policemen and four civilians of the killings of several protesters during the 2011 uprising against former President Hosni Mubarak.

Nearly 200 policemen and Mubarak-era officials have been charged with the killing of 900 protesters in various trials since his ouster. Most of the suspects have been acquitted.

Lawyers and rights activists say the prosecutors' cases are weak and laws have no adequate provisions to try officials for such crimes.

Egypt's state news agency MENA says the court on Thursday found the policemen, a businessman and his three sons not guilty of killing 17 protesters in January 2011 in Suez - a city at the southern tip of the Suez Canal that saw some of the first protester deaths in dramatic confrontations with police.


Source : Sapa-AP /sdv
Date : 12 Sep 2013 14:40
 
Egypt Military Helicopters hit Sinai Militants

Egyptian military helicopters on Friday carried out air strikes on Islamist militant positions in Sinai, two days after suicide bombers killed six soldiers in the restive peninsula, security sources said.

Apache helicopters targeted hideouts and vehicles used by the militants near the town of Sheikh Zuwayid in northern Sinai, the sources said.

On Wednesday, two car bombs targeting the military intelligence headquarters in the town of Rafah and a nearby checkpoint killed six soldiers and the two militants who drove the vehicles.

A little known jihadist group in Sinai claimed responsibility for the attacks in the town bordering the Gaza Strip.

Jund al-Islam, or Islam's Soldiers in English, made the claim in a statement posted on militant Islamist forums.

The group accused the Egyptian military of targeting "unarmed Muslims" in its campaign to quell an Islamist militant insurgency in north Sinai.

The military has poured troops and armour into Sinai to crush the insurgency which surged after the army overthrew Egypt's Islamist president Mohamed Morsi on July 3.

A subsequent crackdown on Islamists left hundreds killed and more than 2,000 arrested across the country.


Source : Sapa-AFP /mr
Date : 13 Sep 2013 12:05
 
Egypt Steps up Offensive against Sinai Militants

An Egyptian army official says the military has stepped up its offensive in northern Sinai after a pause following two stunning suicide car bombings in the strategic peninsula this week.

The official says helicopter gunships targeted suspected Islamic militant hideouts in a dozen villages south of the town of Sheikh Zuweyid and farmlands near the city of el-Arish at sunrise Friday.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

A witness who lives nearby says smoke billowed in the sky after loud explosions rocked the area. He spoke of condition of anonymity fearing for his safety.

Meanwhile, a militant group called Jund al-Islam claimed responsibility for Wednesday's suicide attacks that targeted a military intelligence headquarters and a checkpoint, killing six troops.


Source : Sapa-AP /mr
Date : 13 Sep 2013 13:26
 
An Egyptian army official says the military has stepped up its offensive in northern Sinai after a pause following two stunning suicide car bombings in the strategic peninsula this week.

The official says helicopter gunships targeted suspected Islamic militant hideouts in a dozen villages south of the town of Sheikh Zuweyid and farmlands near the city of el-Arish at sunrise Friday.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

A witness who lives nearby says smoke billowed in the sky after loud explosions rocked the area. He spoke of condition of anonymity fearing for his safety.

Meanwhile, a militant group called Jund al-Islam claimed responsibility for Wednesday's suicide attacks that targeted a military intelligence headquarters and a checkpoint, killing six troops.


Source : Sapa-AP /mr
Date : 13 Sep 2013 13:26

What reporter uses the word "stunning" to describe a car bomb?
I know it fits the dictionary definition, but it definitely doesn't fit the modern colloquial usage of the word
 
What reporter uses the word "stunning" to describe a car bomb?
I know it fits the dictionary definition, but it definitely doesn't fit the modern colloquial usage of the word

Ja, I think it's a translation anomaly that was carried over from the Original Source (AP) and then missed by the editor.
 
Egypt Army Storms Islamist-Held Town

Troops on Monday stormed a central Egyptian town held for over a month by hardline supporters of ousted Islamist president Mohamed Morsi who had launched a campaign against Christian residents, officials said.

Soldiers and police entered the town of Delga in the central Minya province just after dawn, searching homes and arresting several Islamists, a security official told AFP.

All 32 entrances to the village were shut and a daytime curfew imposed as authorities recaptured the town of 120,000 people, held for 31 days by Morsi loyalists, according to the official MENA news agency.

Officials said Islamists controlling the town were behind several attacks on churches around the Minya province.

The raid on the town comes amid a massive crackdown on Islamists following the military's ouster of president Morsi on July 3, which plunged the country deeper into turmoil.

In mid-August police and soldiers broke up two pro-Morsi protest camps in Cairo in an operation that killed hundreds.

The transition plan set up by the army-backed interim government stipulates fresh parliamentary elections and a presidential vote by mid-2014.


Source : Sapa-AFP /sdv
Date : 16 Sep 2013 12:20
 
Egypt Arrests Muslim Brotherhood Spokesman

Egypt's army-backed authorities arrested the spokesman of the Muslim Brotherhood on Tuesday, the latest member of the Islamist organisation to be jailed since a July 3 coup, security sources said.

An arrest warrant had been issued for Gehad al-Haddad, who was active on social networks, as part of a crackdown that followed the military's overthrow of Islamist president Mohamed Morsi, the sources told AFP.


Source : Sapa-AFP /sdv
Date : 17 Sep 2013 16:34
 
Cairo Metro Grounded after bombs found : Security

Egyptian authorities on Thursday grounded several metro lines in the capital after two unexploded bombs were found on the tracks in a south Cairo station, security officials said.

Bomb experts were dispatched to the scene and were combing the tracks for more devices, one official said.


Source : Sapa-AFP /pk
Date : 19 Sep 2013 09:00
 
Egypt Troops Surround Islamist Stronghold by Cairo

Egypt's official news agency says troops backed by helicopters have surrounded a town outside Cairo known to be an Islamist stronghold after exchanging fire with suspected militants who killed a senior police officer.

MENA says Gen. Nabil Farag, and aide to the police chief of the city of Giza, was killed when militants opened fire on security forces deployed early Thursday to the town of Kerdasa to drive off suspected Islamic militants. It said "terrorists and criminal elements" were responsible.

Kerdasa witnessed a brutal assault on security forces last month when heavily armed suspected supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi killed 15 police officers and mutilated their bodies. The attack appeared to be in retaliation for security forces violent crackdown on pro-Morsi protest camps, where hundreds of people were killed.


Source : Sapa-AP /pk
Date : 19 Sep 2013 08:56
 
Egypt Returns $2Bn Aid to Qatar

Qatar announced Thursday that Cairo has returned a $2-billion bank deposit which Doha wanted to transform into bonds, in a sign of strained ties since the ouster of Egypt's Islamist president Mohamed Morsi.

A finance ministry spokesman said Doha "respects the decision of the Egyptian government to return a two-billion-dollar deposit to Qatar," following the failure of two weeks of negotiations on converting the funds into bonds.

The deposit was part of an $8-billion Qatari aid package to Egypt after the 2011 revolution which toppled its president Hosni Mubarak.

Doha-Cairo ties have been unsettled since the Egyptian army's July 3 ouster of Morsi, who had the strong support of Qatar, following a wave of popular street protests.


Source : Sapa-AFP /mr
Date : 19 Sep 2013 22:26
 
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