Therefore, they should change the constitution. But that's a totally different debate.
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Therefore, they should change the constitution. But that's a totally different debate.
R13...
Honorary Master
Actually in a crime of passion he probably wasn't thinking, he'd likely been consumed by rage and jealousy. I don't think that is a capital crime.
A murder is a murder. Unless someone is seriously threatening your life or the life of those around you, you have no excuse for killing that person.
There is a difference between someone sitting now plotting to shoot the guard dead in order to get into the bank, and someone busting his wife in bed with the milkman. Both murders, one is premeditated one is not. I am not a criminal expert but somehow I don't agree that they should get the same penalty.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
US SUPREME COURT SUSPENDS EXECUTION OF MISSOURI MURDERER
by Chantal VALERY
The US Supreme Court ordered a last minute stay of execution for a convicted murderer and rapist who argued that a rare medical condition risked making the lethal injection unconstitutional.
The temporary ruling came after a flurry of last minute proceedings by both sides before a lower court.
But the inmate could still be executed by lethal injection on Wednesday, depending on what the high court decides after considering the case.
The late night drama illustrated how executions by lethal injection have become highly controversial in the US since the 32 state with capital punishment began facing a shortage of drugs used to execute death row inmates.
Originally set for Wednesday at 12:01 am (0501 GMT), it was the third US execution delayed by a court since an Oklahoma man's botched procedure last month prompted accusations of torture and reignited fierce debate in the United States about capital punishment.
Missouri inmate Russell Bucklew, who was convicted of murdering a love rival and raping a former girlfriend, argued that an unusual medical condition which leaves him with growths on his head and neck creates significant risk that he will die an agonizing death -- making it unconstitutional.
A tortuous and painful death is in violation of the US Constitution's Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment.
The Eighth Circuit appeals court ruled that "Bucklew's unrebutted medical evidence demonstrates the requisite sufficient likelihood of unnecessary pain and suffering beyond the constitutionally permissible amount inherent in all executions."
Missouri Attorney General Chris Koster asked the court to lift the stay, and just as the court announced it was in fact going to allow the execution after all, the US Supreme Court's Judge Samuel Alito stepped in and stopped the procedure. This was one hour before the scheduled execution time.
The Supreme Court could use Wednesday to establish jurisprudence with regard to lethal injections.
Lower courts are facing a barrage of appeals challenging the origin of the drugs used for injections, the fact that states often will not reveal who manufactured them and the suffering that death row inmates potentially face if the drugs are administered.
In Oklahoma, Clayton Lockett, a convicted killer and rapist, was put to death on April 29 by lethal injection in a process that took 43 minutes, well over the expected time of a little over 10 minutes.
Lockett's gruesome death prompted officials in that state to temporarily halt executions and review its execution drug protocols, amid harsh criticism from human rights and anti-death penalty advocates.
President Barack Obama called the incident -- in which Lockett eventually died of a massive heart attack -- "deeply troubling" and warned that it raised "significant questions about how the death penalty is being applied."
Oklahoma used an untested cocktail of drugs during the procedure because some drug suppliers have ceased making the compounds usually used in executions available.
Some US states have turned to compounding pharmacies as a source of the drugs, but the future of that option is in doubt, as state governments review their execution procedures.
Another execution planned for that same day in Oklahoma has been put off for six months while the state studies its procedures.
Another execution, scheduled for Texas, was also delayed -- in that case for reasons unrelated to the controversial lethal injection protocol. Despite the questions over lethal injection drugs, a recent study found that 59 percent of Americans remained in favor of capital punishment, with 35 percent against.
The survey of 800 adults also found sizeable numbers of Americans would back other execution methods -- such as the electric chair or gas chamber -- if lethal injections were deemed no longer practicable because of a shortage of death penalty drugs.
Source : Sapa-AFP /mjs
Date : 21 May 2014 07:52
by Chantal VALERY
The US Supreme Court ordered a last minute stay of execution for a convicted murderer and rapist who argued that a rare medical condition risked making the lethal injection unconstitutional.
The temporary ruling came after a flurry of last minute proceedings by both sides before a lower court.
But the inmate could still be executed by lethal injection on Wednesday, depending on what the high court decides after considering the case.
The late night drama illustrated how executions by lethal injection have become highly controversial in the US since the 32 state with capital punishment began facing a shortage of drugs used to execute death row inmates.
Originally set for Wednesday at 12:01 am (0501 GMT), it was the third US execution delayed by a court since an Oklahoma man's botched procedure last month prompted accusations of torture and reignited fierce debate in the United States about capital punishment.
Missouri inmate Russell Bucklew, who was convicted of murdering a love rival and raping a former girlfriend, argued that an unusual medical condition which leaves him with growths on his head and neck creates significant risk that he will die an agonizing death -- making it unconstitutional.
A tortuous and painful death is in violation of the US Constitution's Eighth Amendment prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment.
The Eighth Circuit appeals court ruled that "Bucklew's unrebutted medical evidence demonstrates the requisite sufficient likelihood of unnecessary pain and suffering beyond the constitutionally permissible amount inherent in all executions."
Missouri Attorney General Chris Koster asked the court to lift the stay, and just as the court announced it was in fact going to allow the execution after all, the US Supreme Court's Judge Samuel Alito stepped in and stopped the procedure. This was one hour before the scheduled execution time.
The Supreme Court could use Wednesday to establish jurisprudence with regard to lethal injections.
Lower courts are facing a barrage of appeals challenging the origin of the drugs used for injections, the fact that states often will not reveal who manufactured them and the suffering that death row inmates potentially face if the drugs are administered.
In Oklahoma, Clayton Lockett, a convicted killer and rapist, was put to death on April 29 by lethal injection in a process that took 43 minutes, well over the expected time of a little over 10 minutes.
Lockett's gruesome death prompted officials in that state to temporarily halt executions and review its execution drug protocols, amid harsh criticism from human rights and anti-death penalty advocates.
President Barack Obama called the incident -- in which Lockett eventually died of a massive heart attack -- "deeply troubling" and warned that it raised "significant questions about how the death penalty is being applied."
Oklahoma used an untested cocktail of drugs during the procedure because some drug suppliers have ceased making the compounds usually used in executions available.
Some US states have turned to compounding pharmacies as a source of the drugs, but the future of that option is in doubt, as state governments review their execution procedures.
Another execution planned for that same day in Oklahoma has been put off for six months while the state studies its procedures.
Another execution, scheduled for Texas, was also delayed -- in that case for reasons unrelated to the controversial lethal injection protocol. Despite the questions over lethal injection drugs, a recent study found that 59 percent of Americans remained in favor of capital punishment, with 35 percent against.
The survey of 800 adults also found sizeable numbers of Americans would back other execution methods -- such as the electric chair or gas chamber -- if lethal injections were deemed no longer practicable because of a shortage of death penalty drugs.
Source : Sapa-AFP /mjs
Date : 21 May 2014 07:52
This is a bit stupid to me. You agree to have the death penalty but vote in to have the one and only method that you are experiencing a shortage of resources to enforce.
Either start sourcing/ manufacturing/ substituting your own drugs for the injection, or bring back the electric chair/ hanging/ firing squad.
These are full proof methods ensuring immediate death without pain and no risk of running out of stock.
Do something.
These convicted murderers land up sitting longer on death row than many people are alive, cost money and then when times comes to execute there are still such issues.
No man.
Either start sourcing/ manufacturing/ substituting your own drugs for the injection, or bring back the electric chair/ hanging/ firing squad.
These are full proof methods ensuring immediate death without pain and no risk of running out of stock.
Do something.
These convicted murderers land up sitting longer on death row than many people are alive, cost money and then when times comes to execute there are still such issues.
No man.
The_Ogre
Honorary Master
I read somewhere that the reason there's a shortage of the drugs is because the countries who are selling them refuse to sell it to the US to use for the death penalty, as the same countries have abolished the death penalty.
I'd go even further and say they should hang them! No need to waste electricity on these sacks of schit
There are lots of ways.
You don't see such issues in China where they execute more people per year than the rest of the world put together, and the injection is predominant method.
The US can import so much junk from China they can bring in thiopental.
You don't see such issues in China where they execute more people per year than the rest of the world put together, and the injection is predominant method.
The US can import so much junk from China they can bring in thiopental.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
They can use the drugs confiscated by the police department. Just give them a massive OD.
daveza
Honorary Master
China uses the same three-drug cocktail as used in the USA.
There are also technical issues from a medical perspective.
In the brief for the U.S. courts written by accessories, on state implied that they were unable to find any physicians willing to participate in development of protocols for executions by lethal injection, as this would be a violation of medical ethics. Such physicians would be thrown out of the medical community and shunned for engaging in such deeds, even if they could not lawfully be stripped of their license.
This is an issue.
Fek, we put men on the moon surely this can easily be resolved.
Exactly my point.
R13...
Honorary Master
But the Chinese don't care about painful deaths either, they are even reported to operate death vans to expedite the process
That's just a mobile station to carry out the execution. Does not mean the van is the cause of any cruel and unusual punishment.
If the van is equipped same as the chamber then there should be no issue.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
US POSTPONES TWO EXECUTIONS TO AWAIT SUPREME COURT REVIEW
Two executions were postponed at the 11th hour Tuesday to await a ruling from the US Supreme Court, delaying what would have been the first since a botched lethal injection.
The procedure in Oklahoma on April 29 left a death-row inmate writhing in pain, and so far each execution slated to take place since has been delayed.
The Supreme Court was expected to rule later Tuesday on the appeal from Marcus Wellons, on death row in Georgia for killing and raping a 15-year-old girl he snatched on her way to school.
In the second case, John Winfield, convicted of killing two women, had been due to be put to death at 12:00 am Wednesday (0500 GMT) in Missouri. The top court has until the end of the day Wednesday to rule in that appeal.
Either execution could go forward as soon as the high court gives its ruling, if it decides against the defendants.
A third execution is also scheduled for 6:00 pm (2200 GMT) Wednesday in the southern state of Florida.
Under Georgia and Missouri law, as in Oklahoma, authorities are not required to disclose certain details of drugs used in the lethal injections or of the team who will carry out the death penalty.
Although Georgia uses the anesthetic pentobarbital in its injection cocktail, the drug is apparently made by a compounding pharmacy unaccredited at the federal level.
"There's not sufficient information provided on where they're getting the pentobarbital," said Deborah Denno, a lethal injection expert and Fordham University law professor.
"The secrecy laws prevent the kind of information that we need to even discuss the issue," she added.
US states using the death penalty have faced crisis over shortages of lethal injection drugs after European suppliers stopped supplying pentobarbital for use in executions.
The shortages have prompted prison departments in the 32 states that still allow the death penalty to seek new supply sources or new drug protocols.
In Oklahoma, Clayton Lockett, a convicted killer and rapist, was put to death by lethal injection in a process that took 43 minutes, well over the expected time of a little over 10 minutes.
An independent autopsy found that the medical team failed to set an IV multiple times and ultimately perforated a vein.
This, says Denno, "definitely shows that there's problems with the execution team, with people who simply don't know what they're doing."
"It seems precipitous to carry out executions until more is known about what went wrong in Oklahoma and how to fix it," said Richard Dieter of the Death Penalty Information Center.
"The problems in Oklahoma are also potentially present in Georgia, Missouri and Florida, even though they may use slightly different protocols," he said.
Source : Sapa-AFP /gm
Date : 18 Jun 2014 03:03
Two executions were postponed at the 11th hour Tuesday to await a ruling from the US Supreme Court, delaying what would have been the first since a botched lethal injection.
The procedure in Oklahoma on April 29 left a death-row inmate writhing in pain, and so far each execution slated to take place since has been delayed.
The Supreme Court was expected to rule later Tuesday on the appeal from Marcus Wellons, on death row in Georgia for killing and raping a 15-year-old girl he snatched on her way to school.
In the second case, John Winfield, convicted of killing two women, had been due to be put to death at 12:00 am Wednesday (0500 GMT) in Missouri. The top court has until the end of the day Wednesday to rule in that appeal.
Either execution could go forward as soon as the high court gives its ruling, if it decides against the defendants.
A third execution is also scheduled for 6:00 pm (2200 GMT) Wednesday in the southern state of Florida.
Under Georgia and Missouri law, as in Oklahoma, authorities are not required to disclose certain details of drugs used in the lethal injections or of the team who will carry out the death penalty.
Although Georgia uses the anesthetic pentobarbital in its injection cocktail, the drug is apparently made by a compounding pharmacy unaccredited at the federal level.
"There's not sufficient information provided on where they're getting the pentobarbital," said Deborah Denno, a lethal injection expert and Fordham University law professor.
"The secrecy laws prevent the kind of information that we need to even discuss the issue," she added.
US states using the death penalty have faced crisis over shortages of lethal injection drugs after European suppliers stopped supplying pentobarbital for use in executions.
The shortages have prompted prison departments in the 32 states that still allow the death penalty to seek new supply sources or new drug protocols.
In Oklahoma, Clayton Lockett, a convicted killer and rapist, was put to death by lethal injection in a process that took 43 minutes, well over the expected time of a little over 10 minutes.
An independent autopsy found that the medical team failed to set an IV multiple times and ultimately perforated a vein.
This, says Denno, "definitely shows that there's problems with the execution team, with people who simply don't know what they're doing."
"It seems precipitous to carry out executions until more is known about what went wrong in Oklahoma and how to fix it," said Richard Dieter of the Death Penalty Information Center.
"The problems in Oklahoma are also potentially present in Georgia, Missouri and Florida, even though they may use slightly different protocols," he said.
Source : Sapa-AFP /gm
Date : 18 Jun 2014 03:03
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
FLORIDA EXECUTES DEATH-ROW INMATE, THIRD IN US IN 24 HOURS
Florida put to death a convicted double killer on Wednesday, the third execution in 24 hours in the United States, amid a raging controversy over lethal injection methods.
The flurry of executions brings a swift end to a seven-week hiatus in executions in the US following a botched procedure in Oklahoma that left a death-row prisoner writhing in agony before he died.
After getting clearance from the Supreme Court, Florida put to death John Henry, 63, who killed his wife and a five-year-old.
Henry, on death row for three decades, received a cocktail of medications and was declared dead at 0043 GMT, prisons spokeswoman Jessica Cary said.
He was the 23rd inmate executed this year in the United States, which allows individual US states to decide if they will use capital punishment, and implement it if they choose it.
On Tuesday and early Wednesday one execution was carried out in Georgia and another in Missouri. Both -- also by lethal injection -- came after last-minute appeals were rejected by the US Supreme Court.
In the first of them, Marcus Wellons, 58, convicted of the 1989 kidnapping, rape and murder of a 15-year-old girl, was put to death shortly before midnight in the southern state of Georgia, a spokesman for the prison system said.
In the second case, John Winfield, 43, convicted of killing two women, was executed in the central state of Missouri.
They were the first since the bungled April 29 execution in Oklahoma that provoked accusations of torture.
Clayton Lockett, a convicted killer and rapist, was put to death by lethal injection in a process that took 43 minutes, well over the usual time of a little over 10 minutes.
He was seen writhing in pain, bucking off the gurney and mumbling unintelligibly in a spectacle that drew widespread condemnation, even from President Barack Obama.
Obama, who backs the death penalty for heinous crimes, condemned the incident as "deeply troubling."
He ordered Attorney General Eric Holder, who is seeking the death penalty in the Boston Marathon bombings case, to conduct a policy review of how the death penalty is applied in the United States.
Source : Sapa-AFP /gm
Date : 19 Jun 2014 03:23
Florida put to death a convicted double killer on Wednesday, the third execution in 24 hours in the United States, amid a raging controversy over lethal injection methods.
The flurry of executions brings a swift end to a seven-week hiatus in executions in the US following a botched procedure in Oklahoma that left a death-row prisoner writhing in agony before he died.
After getting clearance from the Supreme Court, Florida put to death John Henry, 63, who killed his wife and a five-year-old.
Henry, on death row for three decades, received a cocktail of medications and was declared dead at 0043 GMT, prisons spokeswoman Jessica Cary said.
He was the 23rd inmate executed this year in the United States, which allows individual US states to decide if they will use capital punishment, and implement it if they choose it.
On Tuesday and early Wednesday one execution was carried out in Georgia and another in Missouri. Both -- also by lethal injection -- came after last-minute appeals were rejected by the US Supreme Court.
In the first of them, Marcus Wellons, 58, convicted of the 1989 kidnapping, rape and murder of a 15-year-old girl, was put to death shortly before midnight in the southern state of Georgia, a spokesman for the prison system said.
In the second case, John Winfield, 43, convicted of killing two women, was executed in the central state of Missouri.
They were the first since the bungled April 29 execution in Oklahoma that provoked accusations of torture.
Clayton Lockett, a convicted killer and rapist, was put to death by lethal injection in a process that took 43 minutes, well over the usual time of a little over 10 minutes.
He was seen writhing in pain, bucking off the gurney and mumbling unintelligibly in a spectacle that drew widespread condemnation, even from President Barack Obama.
Obama, who backs the death penalty for heinous crimes, condemned the incident as "deeply troubling."
He ordered Attorney General Eric Holder, who is seeking the death penalty in the Boston Marathon bombings case, to conduct a policy review of how the death penalty is applied in the United States.
Source : Sapa-AFP /gm
Date : 19 Jun 2014 03:23
The_Ogre
Honorary Master
This made me read up about how long these people are on death row for.
The current longest (excecuted) person in the US was Jack Alreman who served more than 33 years before being executed. Gary Alvord, another US convict was however on death row longer - 43 years - before he died from a brain tumor :wtf:
If it takes these people that long to determine whether the person committed the crime or not, they might as well not execute him at all.
The current longest (excecuted) person in the US was Jack Alreman who served more than 33 years before being executed. Gary Alvord, another US convict was however on death row longer - 43 years - before he died from a brain tumor :wtf:
If it takes these people that long to determine whether the person committed the crime or not, they might as well not execute him at all.