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Archer said:
@OP -
So do all your servers come from manufacturing plants that have zero emissions? Are they carbon neutral?
Was your building constructed "green?"
What is your opinion on the google headquarters that has most of its roof covered in solar panels?
Or how about their employee transport systems, saving people from using their own cars, hence reducing emissions?
Or how they reduced oil consumption in their back up generators by 67%...
Or how they avoided buying thousands of new servers by simply retasking the old ones...
etc, etc, etc

Methinks you dont know the half of what google does to be "green" but since it competes your search engine, you are willing to ignore it
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Yes Archie, I am well aware of all this, but in spite of all this, they STILL have a published and well-documented carbon-footprint of 1.5MILLION tons per annum. If you are interested in SEARCH and RESULTS, then why don't you consider using a service that provides a virtually identical result-set, minus the carbon emissions and with an added layer of carbon-offsetting? Or does your fanboyism preclude you from entertaining any real alternatives? If so, then your banter is meaningless....
 
WilD_CaT said:
Twaddle. See the article I posted below:

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/403403-Farewell-to-the-Free-Market-City-Journal

and thus, I'll stick to Google.

PS: It's ironic you are here trying to compete with Google, and freely competing is the hallmark of Capitalism. Say one thing and do another?!
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Well. as a delegate who was AT COP17 and who was involved in many debates and discussions at Speaker's Corner, the issue of globalisation, corporate greed, the Occupy movement and global injustice are all so neatly and clearly related that the only rational alternative is a radical rethink of capitalism and a resetting of the system to make it more fair to groups and societies that will continue to remain on the periphery if change is not manually inserted and foisted on "the system".

The fact remains, the Wall Street bailout could've comprehensively solved world hunger, removed BILLIONS of tons of carbon from the atmosphere and given renewable energy a massive boost. The money was of course spent on bailing out banks and institutions representative of a creaking, ailing financial system that is collapsing under the weight of its own BS.

Of course I support the free market system, but I also support fairness and with the might of Google and their known aggressive policy of takeovers, acquisitions and hostile closures, they're not this big, innocent company so many of you think it is...I implore you to please research the Occupy movement and visit www.googleopoly.net for some insight into the real issues at stake.

GreenSrch.com will continue to provide a search service that results in zero emissions and which can help you offset your carbon emissions...these are the facts.
 
CritiKill said:
GreenSrch.com will continue to provide a search service that results in zero emissions and which can help you offset your carbon emissions...these are the facts.
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Thats not really true though. The datacenter you host at is an energy ho.


... and of course you will have independently verifiable quantification of said claims? Im sure you should be able to get ISO 14001 and OHSAS 18001 certification if what you say is true.

I like your idea, but by attacking Google (who is doing and done more than most corporations out there) to sell your website... well thats miff. I cant respect that. Show me a corporation doing more. Owning a part of Google is not some cultist cabal. You can easily purchase stock online. They're listed.
 
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ghoti said:
Thats not really true though. The datacenter you host at is an energy ho.
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Well we have certificates stating that the servers which we use are running off 100% green hydro-electric power. Unless you have some psychic-sources which I'm not aware of and have intimate insight which disprove the most fundamental requirement of our business model...I'm all ears man...
 
CritiKill said:
Well we have certificates stating that the servers which we use are running off 100% green hydro-electric power. Unless you have some psychic-sources which I'm not aware of and have intimate insight which disprove the most fundamental requirement of our business model...I'm all ears man...
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And the aircon?
 
ghoti said:
Thats not really true though. The datacenter you host at is an energy ho.


... and of course you will have independently verifiable quantification of said claims? Im sure you should be able to get ISO 14001 and OHSAS 18001 certification if what you say is true.

I like your idea, but by attacking Google (who is doing and done more than most corporations out there) to sell your website... well thats miff. I cant respect that. Show me a corporation doing more. Owning a part of Google is not some cultist cabal. You can easily purchase stock online. They're listed.
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I have not attacked Google other than to point out that the company is ridiculously powerful and a threat to the very essence of the Internet. This is well documented on www.googleopoly.net (if you'd care to read it). I also did mention that they have a carbon footprint that is considerable and in spite of your protestations, is a weak point in their formidable armour...something which my fledgling startup is endeavoring to exploit as is my entrepreneurial right.
 
Sinbad said:
And the aircon?
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We have certificates stating that all energy running into our data-center comes from a hydro-electric source...no, I have not run the length of the cable to verify this but I take it on good authority that a reputable company which charges significantly more for its hosting space for this benefit can be believed.
 
CritiKill said:
Basically you register, login and for every 500 "valid" searches which you do, the company will plant 1 tree in your name. It's still early days and the system is being worked on as we speak as bugs are being worked on and ironed out...read the "About Us" for more info though.
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What is a 'valid' search?
Where are these 50 million trees going to be planted?
 
Where will they plant the tree in my name ?

I would at least like to be able to see it from my balcony and it should preferably be a Willow tree 'cos I like Willow trees.

You can't buy Willow trees here so if they can make that happen I will indeed do 500 searches on the shortage of Willow trees visible from my balcony.
 
CritiKill said:
I have not attacked Google other than to point out that the company is ridiculously powerful and a threat to the very essence of the Internet. This is well documented on www.googleopoly.net (if you'd care to read it). I also did mention that they have a carbon footprint that is considerable and in spite of your protestations, is a weak point in their formidable armour...something which my fledgling startup is endeavoring to exploit as is my entrepreneurial right.
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If you dont like them, dont use them. Its easy to filter google off the internet. There are many competitors (probably the money behind a website like googleopoly.net) like Microsoft and others that offer similar services. Actually there are thousands.... however, people use what works for them best. For most people that is Google.

www.googleopoly.net looks like it was made with crayons and I see right off the bad theyre trying to sell me the "big bad google conspiracy" book. Oh jeez.....

From my side I see how Google protects pro-democracy supporters in China and how they try keep the flow of information going. They are doing what they do best and at any time... if I wanna delete everything Google knows about me. I can. They give me that option.
 
daveza said:
So do we need to wait until they aren't powered by Google before I get the tree ?
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I think planting the trees is meant to offset the carbon footprint created by google thus saving the world from a google disaster.
 
CritiKill said:
GreenSrch.com will continue to provide a search service that results in zero emissions and which can help you offset your carbon emissions...these are the facts.
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Complete twaddle...certificates that your servers are powered from hydro electricity is NOT zero emissions... to manufacture your servers produced emissions, to ship them to the DC produced emissions, to build the hydro plant produced emissions etc etc....

Your small little experiment might get its power from a "green" source... but you are NOT zero emissions.. and your scale is nowhere near as big as google...

Scale out your systems to match googles and I can guarantee you, that even after your little "500" searches, plant a tree thing, you will have higher carbon emissions than Google.
 
And each time you search they just query google anyway ;)
 
daveza said:
So do we need to wait until they aren't powered by Google before I get the tree ?
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I believe daveza has stumbled upon the flaw in your great anti-google crusade CritiKill.

GreenSrch_com_The_world_s_GREENEST_search_engine_Web_this_is_a_test.png
 
Wait just a cotton picking minute..

You're going on a rant and crusade against Google.. yet your little "zero-emission-twaddle" of a search FRONT page actually uses Google AND Bing for the results already?

Colour me horribly unimpressed with your attempt now....
 
ghoti said:
I believe daveza has stumbled upon the flaw in your great anti-google crusade CritiKill.

GreenSrch_com_The_world_s_GREENEST_search_engine_Web_this_is_a_test.png
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That's why they are planting the trees, to offset google's carbon footprint.

They plan to plant 50 million trees in the next 5 years.
That's about 27397 trees they need to plant a day!
 
joelus said:
That's why they are planting the trees, to offset google's carbon footprint.

They plan to plant 50 million trees in the next 5 years.
That's about 27397 trees they need to plant a day!
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I wonder how many tree`s will be required to plant 27397 trees a day....

I realized that statement needs clarifying... by "how many trees"... I mean, what about the energy, manpower and logistics will be used to plant that many tree`s a day.

I still reckon a datacenter in Antarctica is the way to go. Constant wind and hydro power, constant free cooling from environment to servers and heat from servers to human environment :D
 
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