Through put on LTE

[HowTo]

Hello all

Can through put be increased.
(RSSI / RSRP / RSRQ ) I need to look at those figures.
MY friend also shown me his download and upload figures.
Similar to mine. Download >10Mbps and Upload <5.0Mbps.
Is this normal on Telkom Network.
I stay in Springs area he is in Boksburg area.

I'm using currently the two paddle antennas supplied. I receive 3 to 4 bars signal.

 

[Vaughan]

Hello all

Can through put be increased.
(RSSI / RSRP / RSRQ ) I need to look at those figures.
MY friend also shown me his download and upload figures.
Similar to mine. Upload >10Mbps and Download<5.0Mbps.
Is this normal on Telkom Network.
I stay in Springs area he is in Boksburg area.

I'm using currently the two paddle antennas supplied. I receive 3 to 4 bars signal.

Throughput will usually be governed by the load on the network as the infrastructure in SA is pretty shocking. Your download and upload seem to be switched. Either that or your antenna is setup quite badly
Generally for decent speeds you will want 5 bar signal. That will increase throughput.

 

[The_MAC]

Throughput will usually be governed by the load on the network as the infrastructure in SA is pretty shocking. Your download and upload seem to be switched. Either that or your antenna is setup quite badly
Generally for decent speeds you will want 5 bar signal. That will increase throughput.

Not always the case.

The bars on the Router show signal strength, and not quality, essentially you need both, good signal and good quality.

So in a perfect world, you want a strong good-quality signal, and good backhaul at the base station that is serving you.

The only thing that you can control (to some extent) is the negative effect on your signal strength by the obstructions between you and the base station, so installing a high-gain antenna is your only hope in mitigating this.

 

[HowTo]

Some test I did earlier and current.

MyBB
Last Result:
Download Speed: 16041 kbps (2005.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 2599 kbps (324.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 30 ms
Jitter: 10 ms
2015/08/06 17:00:09

Speed Net
Vodacom server
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4562115480.png

Telkom
Last Result:
Download Speed: 47178 kbps (5897.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 2213 kbps (276.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 42 ms
2015/08/06 17:05:48

MyBB
Last Result:
Download Speed: 15057 kbps (1882.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 5707 kbps (713.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 30 ms
Jitter: 10 ms
2015/08/0 21:07:41

Speed Net
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4562698778.png

Telkom
Last Result:
Download Speed: 57652 kbps (7206.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 5777 kbps (722.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 42 ms
2015/08/06 21:12:46

(RSSI / RSRP / RSRQ )
-66dBm -94 -7

Why is MyBB speed test the odd one out?

Just did a gamming test, playing D3. Latency shoot up to 760ms. This is a no go zone. Latency was cruising along 234ms then hit 760ms.

 

[Azimuth]

Hello all

Can through put be increased.

Yes, it can. The only way to really get results is to use an outdoor antenna. By improving your connection to the cell, everything else will follow suit.

Refer to these sections for more info:

The Poynting antenna discussion thread

Antenna installation and alignment

Investigate the XPOL-0006 for starters.

Edit: it appears as if you are switching between two neighbouring cells. You want rule out using the non-performing one by bringing a directional antenna into the mix. Your last results are as good as they get (few people post higher, sustained results).

P.S. Personally I only use Speedtest.net (the app) on mobile and the Neotel speed test on desktop.

 

[HowTo]

@Azimuth

Neotel speed test

Last Result:
Download Speed: 73648 kbps (9206 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 6237 kbps (779.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 30 ms
Jitter: 11 ms
‎2015‎/‎08‎/‎16‎ ‎05‎:‎46‎:‎09

Are there any pointers you would like to share, what to look out for.
Latency are the normal to be in the 30ms range. ADSL latency normal 10ms plus or in >10ms but less than <20ms.

 

[Azimuth]

@HowTo your results are off the charts. You won't be able to improve on that short of making sure you don't switch cells by using an XPOL-0006 (or one of the other directional antennas in the range). Latency will improve or be more consistent as an added benefit.

Congrats on those speeds.

 

[HowTo]

Morning

What is the max expected speed you can expect from a 90mbps LTE.
I'm improving daily now on 75mbps without antenna external.

 

[Azimuth]

It's possible to hit max speed on a fully operational and unloaded cell i.e. 90Mbps.

@jcheek

 

[HowTo]

It's possible to hit max speed on a fully operational and unloaded cell i.e. 90Mbps.

@jcheek

I have read a loot since I switched to LTE.
I see he also use external aerial.

 

[Azimuth]

We prefer the term 'outdoor antenna'.

 

[HowTo]

Morning

My current experience loots of speed variations.
I have left my modem standing in one position. then day to day loots of fluctuations doing speed test.
What I have found latency jumps between 40ms down to 20ms. Jitter seems constant.
Then I positioned my modem same position as before but different angles.
I know the -6dbm stays the same all the time. But the other two fluctuate between -4dBm less.
But download speed does not improve with the better values.
I will never have line of sight Telkom tower to may old trees and large ones. Perhaps just pointing in the right direction if I use external antennas.

Last question on the Telkom towers how can you see if those are LTE antennas.

 

[HowTo]

Morning

I want to get a PBN-XPOl-06-10 antenna. This will eliminate any other service provider LTE interference.
Using this with the B593s-601 router.

What do you guys think? As previously posted I don't have line of sight of the tower yet. Loots of buildings and trees between me and the tower.

 

[Azimuth]

Morning

My current experience loots of speed variations.
I have left my modem standing in one position. then day to day loots of fluctuations doing speed test.
What I have found latency jumps between 40ms down to 20ms. Jitter seems constant.
Then I positioned my modem same position as before but different angles.
I know the -6dbm stays the same all the time. But the other two fluctuate between -4dBm less.
But download speed does not improve with the better values.
I will never have line of sight Telkom tower to may old trees and large ones. Perhaps just pointing in the right direction if I use external antennas.

Last question on the Telkom towers how can you see if those are LTE antennas.

Unfortunately fluctuation is the nature of the beast. This is mobile internet, not fibre - and fibre is a really good comparison if you want to see consistent quality of service.

Even by adding an outdoor antenna, you will still get inconsistency due to cell load which in itself is inconsistent at the best of times.

Identification of LTE-capable towers by sight is no easy feat due to lack of knowledge in the South African market. More info can be gleaned from this thread.

 

[Azimuth]

Morning

I want to get a PBN-XPOl-06-10 antenna. This will eliminate any other service provider LTE interference.
Using this with the B593s-601 router.

What do you guys think? As previously posted I don't have line of sight of the tower yet. Loots of buildings and trees between me and the tower.

It is hard to predict the outcome. On paper you should choose another product, such as dual OMNI-0069-v3, because of NLOS. It also bears mentioning that your results, while not consistent (per my previous post), are very good.

You may be bouncing between two cells so theoretically using an XPOL-0006 to point to one particular cell could smooth out large variations due to poor performance of another cell (no more switching to that other slower cell).

You will ultimately have to experiment (at a cost - buying the Poynting antenna you want to test).

 

[HowTo]

It is hard to predict the outcome. On paper you should choose another product, such as dual OMNI-0069-v3, because of NLOS. It also bears mentioning that your results, while not consistent (per my previous post), are very good.

You may be bouncing between two cells so theoretically using an XPOL-0006 to point to one particular cell could smooth out large variations due to poor performance of another cell (no more switching to that other slower cell).

You will ultimately have to experiment (at a cost - buying the Poynting antenna you want to test).

I took some photo shoots of two cell towers in my area.
CG-pics are 1.5km away from me. Both towers have 8ta cubicles inside.
On both tower I don't have clear sight of towers.

Question time.
1) Your router does it lock itself to the tower once coms is established?
2) Can both tower influence your down load speed outcome?
3) Azimuth will the towers not have a influence on the OMNI antennas.?
4) Year ago no LTE was available in our area. Changed the past year. The 1km tower was there since I moved into that suburb.
5) On the CG1610 tower there is Vodacom presence as well MTN. Vodacom only GPRS for our area.
6) On the 1km tower there is MTN presence.
7) 1km tower is to the back of me.
8) CG1610 is in the westerly direction of me.

As I also pointed out in one of my post. I turned the modem from the same location with different position were paddle antennas are point to.
I need to do some more test. First pic is my LTE tower. The other two pic's is not LTE based for some reason, but not far from each other.

 

[Azimuth]

1. Yes but this can change. You can be offloaded to another cell as connection parameters change.
2. No, only the one you are connected to.
3. It doesn't work like that. The dual omni antennas provide a MIMO configuration that is favourable for LTE. The omni antenna allows for a boosted signal and the B593 will continue to poll neighbouring cells to determine if a connection should be maintained or switched.
4. Doesn't really matter. An old base station could be faster than a new one depending on the area which it serves. It's all in the backhaul really.
5. What is the question?
6. Again, not sure what the question is.
7. You will have to test and measure to see which cell is providing the best performance.
8. As per 7 above.

The so-called paddle antennas are not directional. It doesn't matter how you point them.

Nice pics.

 

[HowTo]

1. Yes but this can change. You can be offloaded to another cell as connection parameters change.
2. No, only the one you are connected to.
3. It doesn't work like that. The dual omni antennas provide a MIMO configuration that is favourable for LTE. The omni antenna allows for a boosted signal and the B593 will continue to poll neighbouring cells to determine if a connection should be maintained or switched.
4. Doesn't really matter. An old base station could be faster than a new one depending on the area which it serves. It's all in the backhaul really.
5. What is the question?
6. Again, not sure what the question is.
7. You will have to test and measure to see which cell is providing the best performance.
8. As per 7 above.

The so-called paddle antennas are not directional. It doesn't matter how you point them.

Nice pics.

Sorry misleading. So called question 5-8 is info only.

 

[HowTo]

It is hard to predict the outcome. On paper you should choose another product, such as dual OMNI-0069-v3, because of NLOS. It also bears mentioning that your results, while not consistent (per my previous post), are very good.

You may be bouncing between two cells so theoretically using an XPOL-0006 to point to one particular cell could smooth out large variations due to poor performance of another cell (no more switching to that other slower cell You will ultimately have to experiment (at a cost - buying the Poynting antenna you want to test).

A-OMNI-0069-V3

Frequency
790 - 960 MHz
1710 - 2170 MHz
2500 - 2700 MHz


TM not on 2300MHZ, B593s-601 router.

 

[Azimuth]

My bad. Check out the XPOL-0001 which looks like a directional antenna but it is a dual-element omni.