Torn in the new SA

Frankie

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I found this news report and the original article very interesting and close to my current state with regards "should I go, or should I stay".
I'm a half a century old now and don't have the luxury of a big pension to tide me over when I retire in a few years, instead I've invested in property (nothing extravagant) with the intention of using this for my pension.
I'm concerned that if things continue to go the way they are now, I wont have a pension (recall the pensioners in Zim resorting to eating canned dog food, when they could afford the treat), and then I fear becoming the victim of violent crime.
If you asked me say three years ago, I'd have told you with confidence that I have no intention of leaving - I bought property in the last two years, but would certainly not have done so if given the choice today - today I'm giving emigration serious thought.
And I have the middle finger salute ready for all those that condemn - up yours.
Apart from the emotional turmoil, it is very costly to sell up and leave.

Call me racist for thinking this way - screw you too. I was one of those that called for death penalty when that man (white) sodomised then murdered that little boy in Knysna (or one of the coastal resort towns).
It is crime (no colour attached) that is the cause for concern, which our government (no colour attached) has no intention of addressing.

Torn in the new SA

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20080407060113831C136313

In January 2004, expatriate Bronwyn McIntosh wrote an Internet article entitled Dangers Of South Africa: Fear Of Crime. That October she was denounced as a racist by President Thabo Mbeki in his weekly column. Now she is writing a book based on the correspondence that ensued with hundreds of people around the world.

"I will always be split in two - did I make the right decision? And I will ever have a life that straddles the ocean - a foot on each continent. I will not ever be completely whole again."

These were my words written in an article four years ago. I wrote of feelings personal to myself and my experience, never for a moment thinking it would trigger an emotional deluge.

The passage is the one quoted by most expats who correspond with me. It aptly communicates feelings that never leave them. A continuous stream of e-mails arrive weekly for me, from all over the world. The ebb and flow depends on the time of year and events on the political and economic stage. In four years, this has never stopped.

Many describe intense emotional upheaval upon leaving South Africa (and the experiences that led to their decision). They feel torn at "having" to leave and their families are torn apart by their departure. Others remain in South Africa (and want to leave) but describe their ambivalence - they ask me for help and guidance with their decision. Their desire to leave is triggered by a fear for their future.

Fear fuels most of the departures. The major fear is crime - most people have experienced violent crime and been touched by it in a myriad of ways.

They tell me that these days, the fences are higher, the steel bars and safety doors have multiplied and are stronger and the criminals are becoming cleverer. Despite all of that, people feel that it's simply "a matter of time" before crime will affect their family and they want to stay ahead of the statistics.

South Africa draws a passionate response from people. Students, tourists, businesspeople who've visited the country for a short period of time write about how deeply the visit affected them and, in some instances, changed their life path. These people want to return.

Others write and thank me for changing the course of their life because they read my article and decided not to go and live in South Africa. Do I feel good about that? No. That was not my intent.

When I receive letters asking for information about visiting the country, I encourage them to go and see South Africa. I explain that I haven't lived there in six years and I cannot give them advice about safety. I also tell them that South Africa is a unique country and culture and they will fall in love with it.

The economy is also mentioned by most people - the economy and the prohibitive business and employment laws. They are drawn to the lifestyle, the scenery, the ambience and the culture. They want to live in and build businesses in South Africa, and contribute to the stability of the economy. However, the crime precludes this. Many people simply want a better future for their children.

Survival, prosperity and a need for safety are primal human needs since time immemorial. Once those are met, people turn their energies to other endeavours. There are many correspondents who would return to South Africa, to contribute to and bolster the economy, if they were assured of a safe, stable infrastructure and basic services. Their perception is that South Africa is not a place where they can secure a "better life" and this is why they leave or do not come back.

The original article was written and published in January 2004 on www.escapeartist.com. During the past four years, it has generated enormous controversy and correspondence.

I agreed with its objectives but felt it should also highlight the other side of life. I trusted its articles and had used them to research countries (when we had decided to leave). The editor asked me to write my story, which I did. They chose the title.

President Mbeki drew further attention to the article by calling it "racist" in his ANC newsletter in early October 2004. My response to him was published in national newspapers during the same week.

University students had contacted me to request permission to use my article as a source for a political studies paper and to interview me and quote my article in a journalism course submission. A British man used the article to file a motion against his ex-wife taking their young daughter to live in South Africa.

I didn't anticipate any of this. I didn't intend to draw attention to myself or become an "expert" on anything, I merely recounted my personal experiences and expressed my feelings as a woman, wife and mother. The article has blessed my life in that I have been able to make contact with hundreds of people all over the world.

Complete strangers have offered me friendship and hospitality. If I could begin a world tour today and visit each person for one day, I would travel to every continent and it would take nearly two years.

I have decided to honour this avalanche of correspondence by collating it into a book, to be called Torn in the New SA.

This is my opportunity to give a voice to all the expats, the "should I stay or should I go" people, and those who adamantly refuse to leave.

Many want to express their feelings about living, staying or leaving South Africa and this is their chance. We cannot speak of the beauty of South Africa without contrasting the fear that it evoked in us.

South Africa remains a part of us but our self-preservation instinct or neurosis, say some, outweighed our love for the country. It's easy to say we're racists or cowards, I call us survivalists. We are modern pioneers, forging a better life for our family in an uncertain world. Sadly, we have become the true "scatterlings of Africa" - a casualty of our heritage. I have compiled a questionnaire to formulate and structure correspondence and feedback to reach me by the end of April.

If you, or someone you know, would like to complete a questionnaire or contribute an opinion, e-mail me at [email protected]

# Bronwyn McIntosh received a US green card and lives in Richmond, Virginia.
 
And then our esteemed President labels Bronwyn McIntosh a racist for revealing the truth. This is a typical attitude in this region. Zimababwe did an extremely good job of it. The crime we know about and we know it is a problem, but the President's response is yet another good reason not too hang around for too much longer.

Thabo, you twit, people are dying and being raped every day in this country, catch a wake up - or are you and Mugabe such good bed pals that its easier to blame the British or Apartheid?
 
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AMEN to Frankie!


Was kinda interesting to read the article too btw but ive never heard someone state exactly how i feel about the situation.


Ive only been back in SA since 2006 and im really getting the feeling that leaving Europe to come back here was a mistake. But then again some of us love our country so much that were willing to give it another shot..

Succes and Prosperity to all South-Africans all over the world, be he black, white or green! Ons vir jou Suid-Afrika!
 
I'm currently at the cross roads. A friend of mines mom was raped by two men this weekend. The police did an outstanding job of catching them only to discover that they were released from jail not so long ago. My problem is where to go and how to find a job. In my heart i don't want to go. S.A. is my home and i love it here, but we can't go on like this.
 
AMEN to Frankie!


Was kinda interesting to read the article too btw but ive never heard someone state exactly how i feel about the situation.


Ive only been back in SA since 2006 and im really getting the feeling that leaving Europe to come back here was a mistake. But then again some of us love our country so much that were willing to give it another shot..

Succes and Prosperity to all South-Africans all over the world, be he black, white or green! Ons vir jou Suid-Afrika!

That should read: green and gold :D
 
And then our esteemed President labels Bronwyn McIntosh a racist for revealing the truth. This is a typical attitude in this region. Zimababwe did an extremely good job of it. The crime we know about and we know it is a problem, but the President's response is yet another good reason not too hang around for too much longer.

Thabo, you twit, people are dying and being raped every day in this country, catch a wake up - or are you and Mugabe such good bed pals that its easier to blame the British or Apartheid?

For a black man, its always the whites man fault (NOT all black people)
Our politition once said (don't remember who) that the white man had to apologize of slavery, colonialism, apartheid...

Then whites are forced live with "guilt". People already in there 20's here have nothing to do with apartheid but are still discriminated and called racists.

Calling a person a racist for having a certain skin colour is racist.
If a black man published that article (there are black people who want to leave as well) Thabo would have said otherwise

The mentality here is the downfall of Africa
 
Our esteemed president called a white female journalist who was raped a racist, I can't remember her name, she was from the M&G.

I am not taking sides here, but let's call a spade a spade - Thabo is ****en delusional.
 
These are definitely times of uncertainty for us South Africans. It is only in the past year that I have been getting particularly worried. It seems as though all the chickens have come home to roost at the same time. The current political power vacuum and the spectre that our next president might be found guilty of criminal charges, is hardly reassuring. Is the writing on the wall? I'm not sure yet. I will most probably wait until after the next year's election to see if the ANC is going to clean up it's act and get to grips with serious problems within it's own ranks. At the moment, I've seen no indications that they have the strong leadership or political will to stop the rot. Given this state of affairs, I know I'm most probably going to have to bail out sooner or later.
 
I think so many people are constantly worrying about the future of South Africa but they would only emigrate as a last resort.
Its quite a culture shock to move to another country. Ive been in London for almost a year now and I have to decide in a few months if I should renew my visa or if I should go home. Its a tough choice and far too many South Africans are having to make it these days.
 
i moved over and got all home sick and came back. worst thing ive ever done. will be leaving again in june for good. i dont see why i should spend the one life i have swimming upstream. SA will not get better than it is today in our lifetimes IMO, and i think thats sad. and i think it sucks too. so cheers.
 
Does anyone have a link to T-bone's response to Bronwyn's article, and her subsequent response?

Thanks
 
There have been three periods in recent history where people have left SA in droves.

Firstly in the late 70s early 80s, after the Soweto riots, a lot of white people left for Australia etc. Then after the elections the same thing happened. Now again people are leaving.

I would guess that most of those that left were worried about the future of our country and especially the danger there might be towards their children/families.

Three questions.
1. Have their fears come true? Is South Africa now a dangerous place to raise a family?
2. How many of the families that left now look at South Africa and say "Damn it I wish we hadn't left, look how great things have turned out there."
3. Is South Africa going to get better in the near future (if so, realistically speaking, how?)

I am very sad and angry that SA is ****ed up. I know however that I didn't contribute towards its current state. Unfortunately the people that have are all still in SA and they don't plan on going anywhere
 
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