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remybfg10k

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Just wondered if anyone else here feels that torrents/p2p traffic is "messy" as in you download & upload to the tune of 370mb yet you've actually used about 420mb.

Anyone else feel like that?
 
That is the nature of p2p. It's called "sharing" :p If you want to avoid it use News Servers.
 
I do, and i dont like "sharing" so i always set upload rate to the min amount of slots and slowest upload rate, this is also because i use my phone as a modem and every mb counts for me.
 
That is the nature of p2p. It's called "sharing" :p If you want to avoid it use News Servers.

I really don't mind sharing, my problem is that Utorrent shows 370mb (all together uploaded & downloaded) yet i have used up 420 odd of my prepaid bandwidth.

The only thing i had running is Utorrent, everything else was closed, PC is verified clean from spyware etc, peer guardian running etc

A friend of mine then upped the same size file to a http site, i downloaded that and of the 350mb, my bandwidth only went down 350mb.
 
Hmmm, I dunno why that is. My guess is that uTorrent is only reporting actual file transfer and your system is reporting total communications transfer.

uTorrent counts the pieces of the files sent up or down.
But your system counts those as well as the confirmation signals that the file pieces have been successfully transferred.
 
I see Peerguardian is very active when i'm using Utorrent, could it be that PG is blocking some of the traffic to Utorrent? Is so is it valid to block these packets?
 
It is a bit off. My utorrent shows 46.6mb downloaded today, but netlimiter shows me it has really downloaded 58.5mb. Perhaps the 46.6 only reflect that amount correctly downloaded and the rest are failed or bad transfers? And as Gary said... some communication traffic.
 
Your torrent client would also be communicating with your tracker, and communicating with various other seeders/leechers.

HTTP basically just says "Give me x bytes from byte y of file Z", and gets down to it.

Torrents also say that, but they make a shyteload of additional connections to track your downloads, and the status of other nodes for that torrent. Dynamic Host Tracking and peer exchange adds more data. You could turn those off.

Oh yes - You should also account for overheads. I think it's like 16 bytes per packet sent. Since torrents pump several small packets to different hosts, you have much more 'waste' from these headers than you would with HTTP. HTTP mainly sends BIG packets, where the header only takes a small fraction (1%) of the packets sent.
 
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Very interesting, will start looking a bit deeper, a 50mb loss on a 370mb download is quite high...
 
it's because you are surfing in between, while waiting for your porn to download! lol
 
50MB is not such a big loss if you consider the amount of money you would have spent on actually buying whatever it is you are pirating...

/me throws down wooden spoon and runs for the hills!
 
If you are using uTorrent, check out under the general tab under "Wasted" if anything is there.
 
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