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Xtm

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As most of these taken care by like cloudflare, akamai, fastly content providers for faster web experience, what is the point if need to go direct trace route to US servers?

For example trace route to cnn end up fastly ixp joburg.
 
Tracing route to cnn.com [151.101.195.5]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.18.1
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 100.65.0.1
3 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms 100.122.24.50
4 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 100.122.24.53
5 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms fastly.ixp.joburg [196.60.8.13]
6 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 151.101.195.5

Trace complete.


Will try few more later...
 
xtm said:
Tracing route to cnn.com [151.101.195.5]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 100.65.0.1
3 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms 100.122.24.50
4 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 100.122.24.53
5 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms fastly.ixp.joburg [196.60.8.13]
6 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 151.101.195.5

Trace complete.


Will try few more later...
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We still don't get what you are on about...
 
xtm said:
As most of these taken care by like cloudflare, akamai, fastly content providers for faster web experience, what is the point if need to go direct trace route to US servers?

For example trace route to cnn end up fastly ixp joburg.
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Are you asking that if CDNs provide their own transit, why do you need an ISP to provide you access to the rest of the world?
 
PBCool said:
Are you asking that if CDNs provide their own transit, why do you need an ISP to provide you access to the rest of the world?
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Basically that shouldn't be the case. Sorry for the confusion though.
 
xtm said:
Basically that shouldn't be the case. Sorry for the confusion though.
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So can you confirm if, in fact, that is what you were conveying, so we're clear :)

If it is then to answer you simply, no, you still need to access the broader Internet for all kinds of things.

Also, CDNs often drop their transit, and so as an ISP, you need paths to international/alternative routes anyway.
 
PBCool said:
So can you confirm if, in fact, that is what you were conveying, so we're clear :)

If it is then to answer you simply, no, you still need to access the broader Internet for all kinds of things.

Also, CDNs often drop their transit, and so as an ISP, you need paths to international/alternative routes anyway.
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The concern what I need to know is most ISPs rely on CDNs, so when you trace route to certain international server, in my case cnn.com not giving 30 hops route to destination US server.

So the question how do I get the complete trace route but now ISP's CDN involved?
 
xtm said:
The concern what I need to know is most ISPs rely on CDNs, so when you trace route to certain international server, in my case cnn.com not giving 30 hops route to destination US server.

So the question how do I get the complete trace route but now ISP's CDN involved?
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ISP's don't rely on CDN's nor do they own the CDN's..

The website owner makes the decision to use a CDN and accordingly updates their DNS record for the domain of their website to point to the CDN that they chose..

Unless you somehow got hold of the origin details of the website used by the CDN to fetch the website, you are not going to get a direct traceroute to the US, as in your case..
 
xtm said:
The concern what I need to know is most ISPs rely on CDNs, so when you trace route to certain international server, in my case cnn.com not giving 30 hops route to destination US server.

So the question how do I get the complete trace route but now ISP's CDN involved?
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CDNs cache content typically to be "closer" to the customers/eyeballs.

This ends up as a better experience for the end user, if you have caches on-net that means servers live within your network.

Can you maybe give us an idea of what your issue is with CDN providers?

Are you trying to see which undersea routes your ISP is providing?

As an example we run a VPN to our UK node to bypass Googles transit.
 
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