Traffic shaping for WISP

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Hello,

I'm working for a startup WISP and am curious about the differnt options for traffic/bandwidth shaping. We've had a few users pretty much overrun our network with music and video downloads to the point where other customers were being affected. Can anyone here point me in the direction of a good solution for this?
 
The mandatory startup WISP thread for the month.

damn, two in one month
/me sighs

/me point in the direction of a good business plan
 
Here is the most interesting part. You know that we intend to roll out hundreds of thousands of these APs (for the commercially open minded out there, worth hundreds of millions of rands), literary pepper the urban and semi-urban areas so to have uniform coverage, right?


:rolleyes:
 
We should give these illegal wisps some of their own medicine.

They are forgetting we can also cause noise and disrupt them.
 
You might want to try netequalizer. It doesn't block P2P, but just gives it lower priority when the network bandwidth gets busy (95% in use, I think). Just don't advertise "unlimited" bandwidth if you decide to go with something like this and you should be fine.
 
You might want to try netequalizer. It doesn't block P2P, but just gives it lower priority when the network bandwidth gets busy (95% in use, I think). Just don't advertise "unlimited" bandwidth if you decide to go with something like this and you should be fine.

i'm sure cisco can block and shape as you need but I guess that would cost money and expertise that most startup WISP dont want to spend money and time on just rather focus on how to take the clients money.

damn I feel I like a cynical old bastard :eek:
 
i'm sure cisco can block and shape as you need but I guess that would cost money and expertise that most startup WISP dont want to spend money and time on just rather focus on how to take the clients money.

damn I feel I like a cynical old bastard :eek:

:) Get a Cisco SCE platform at R520K for 10K users. It will do all you want and more.. Or go the Juniper route at roughly the same cost. If you want to things properly and not just rip off clients, that is the way to go.:D
 
:) Get a Cisco SCE platform at R520K for 10K users. It will do all you want and more.. Or go the Juniper route at roughly the same cost. If you want to things properly and not just rip off clients, that is the way to go.:D

need we say more :cool:
 
Thanks for the replies

I've been using netequalizer for a few weeks now and it's working fine. On another note, I don't understand what this has to do with taking customers' money. Without smaller ISPs, there are plenty of people that wouldn't have internet service. As far as the traffic shaping goes, a lot of us don't have a choice. We can't afford to increase bandwidth just to servce a few customers' high-level bandwidth usage. Well, we could, but we'd have to raise prices -- either for those users only, or for everybody. We're not out to scam people, but just ensure that they will have reliable service. I personally went with the netequalizer option because it doesn't start shaping until it hits a certain level (95 percent or more) of congestion. This rarely happens, but does on occasion. We're not blocking P2P. Customers are free to download whatever they want up until it starts slowing service for other people. And this is something we openly share with customers. It actually serves as a selling point to those who are concerned that their QoS will vary. We find that a much higher percentage of customers would rather have traffic shaping than have their service slow down because a few people are constantly downloading TV shows and movies. Anyway, thanks again for the recommendations.
 
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On the shaping part, if you know wifi you wouldn't have to ask here, and as for the not adding another line, yea we know wisps are to stingy when i comes to giving out money. They would rather cram as many customers as they can onto a line or should I say ADSL line. Can i give you idea? Quit while you are still ahead and dont have a bad name. Oh and can we perhaps get the company name so we can stay clear of your congested network?
 
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WISP'S are just over expensive ADSL Lines, then you have to share the same ADSL line with 20 other people.
 
Hello,

I'm working for a startup WISP and am curious about the differnt options for traffic/bandwidth shaping. We've had a few users pretty much overrun our network with music and video downloads to the point where other customers were being affected. Can anyone here point me in the direction of a good solution for this?


savagedavid
Mikrotik Certified Trainer

He should be able to help you
 
I cant explain it but there is a certain rage that flys through me when I hear the term WISP *pukes*
 
Been there, trying to do it the proper way. It seems that most WISPs are a ripoff basing their out lines on IS business uncapped. Anyways, there is still some small honest WISPs around. Make certain what you get.
 
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