Traitors jump ship

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http://www.fin24.com/PersonalFinance/Money-Clinic/Expats-exit-grim-UK-20100707

Expats exit grim UK

Johannesburg - Many South Africans seeking a land of milk and honey in the UK are finding misery and Marmite instead.

While the majority of the estimated 250 000 to 500 000 South Africans in the UK are expected to stick it out, many are returning to SA amid weak employment prospects, alarm over the effects of staggering public cuts and tax increases.

The new coalition government has asked state departments to prepare for spending cuts of up to 40% over four years (although 25% is more likely) in an effort to tackle the country's budget deficit (11% of gross domestic product, compared to 9.9% in the US and 7.3% in SA), the highest in the European Union.

But an estimated 1.2 million people may lose their jobs over the next five years as a result.

Youth unemployment is already at its highest level in 17 years. One in five 18-year-old youths are not in education or jobs, and claim state welfare payments.

The effect of the government's austerity measures will be felt across all age and income groups.

According to estimates of the UK's Higher Education Careers Service, the jobless rate among graduates could reach 20% in the next five years (unemployment for highly skilled professionals in SA is 1.4%, according to a recent survey).

Even for those who get to keep their jobs, tough times are ahead.

While some state functions, like the employer of Anton Böhmer, a South African who works for the National Health Service, have been ring-fenced from cuts, he is facing a salary freeze for the foreseeable future.

"It is not getting better," says Böhmer, who plans to return to SA.

On top of that, tax changes will take their toll.

While the corporate tax rate has been cut, VAT will rise from 17.5% to 20%, the national insurance levy has been hiked and government has scaled back personal tax allowances and child tax credits. Capital gains tax has been increased to 28% for the higher income groups.

The budget cuts are expected to shrink the economy by 6% over the next three years, hurting an already faltering UK economic recovery and weak job market.

Rebecca Davis of the SA Business Club in London says members have particularly noticed a disillusionment with the labour situation among South Africans in the UK.

"At the SA Business Club we've observed over the past year a definite trend of reverse migration.

"Disenchantment with unemployment, or with poorer employment prospects than imagined, in combination with positive reports about the 2010 FIFA World Cup from South Africa and a feeling that it's generally a good place to live right now, are definitely motivating this move."

According to a recent Adcorp survey, about 39 000 South African job-seekers returned from foreign countries over the past year. This figure is expected to rise to 120 000 as foreign work contracts expire.

Mike Jackson, CEO of PPS, says his company - which offers financial services products to graduate professional - has seen trends among its members that indicate they are considering returning home.

"We have seen an increased interest from our overseas members to maintain and upgrade their benefits, which can be a good indicator that they intend returning to South Africa.

"Also encouraging is the fact that we have seen a noticeable decrease in the number of our members cancelling their policies due to emigration," says Jackson. "This suggests that many South African graduate professionals are not only more optimistic about the future in South Africa but are also seeing improved career prospects here as well."

But one SA-born investment banker in the City, London's financial centre, says the increase in capital gains tax is making some South Africans hesitant to sell up and move back to SA.

Many South Africans would kill for UK problems

He thinks the crisis will affect South Africans living outside London more. "London is a country on its own."

Also, many South Africans would kill for the UK's problems.

Schools remain free and healthcare too, says Adri Kotzé, a freelance writer and mother of two. State benefits remain lavish to South African eyes, with some unemployed couples able to fund overseas holidays for their families on "job-seeker" allowances and child benefits.

Kotzé plans to stay on in the UK.

"We arrived in the midst of the financial crisis – if we can survive that, we'll survive (Chancellor of the Exchequer) George (Osborne), the Axeman."

A thirty-something South African living in London, Maia Suhr, says she also plans to remain in the UK and – apart from VAT – the austerity measures won't affect her.

"The main reasons I won't go back to SA are security concerns and the fact that I can travel easily from here."

For those who are thinking of returning, there are a number of considerations.

The local labour market, particularly in financial services, may be tougher than they expect.

Some expats who fled the banking implosion in London during the financial crisis have struggled to find a job, Craig Thompson, SA director of international recruitment agency Michael Page, recently told Fin24.com.

South African expatriates also need to ascertain whether their life and healthcare benefits are still applicable, says Jackson.

"Insurance cover can vary substantially between countries and it is important to bear in mind that switching providers typically involves waiting periods on new medical insurance, critical illness and disability policies as well as pre-existing condition exclusions, which may apply to some insurance policies and medical insurance.

"It is important for anyone who is considering returning home to engage with a qualified financial adviser, who will be familiar with all the challenges entailed with helping someone returning from overseas and how best to structure the various policies and benefits," says Jackson.
 
Johannesburg - Many South Africans seeking a land of milk and honey in the UK are finding misery and Marmite instead.

What's wrong with Marmite? Don't dis Marmite! :mad: Food of the gods.
 
Marmite FTW!

The ones going to Aus are finding Vegemite. Poor sods!
 
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Still with the travel envy Seriously people. Djtay. Grow a pair get a passport and travel. Stop disssing people who has done things you have not! Not all people fled some went for work. Jumping wich freaking ship?
"It is important for anyone who is considering returning home to engage with a qualified financial adviser, who will be familiar with all the challenges entailed with helping someone returning from overseas and how best to structure the various policies and benefits," says Jackson.

Yes yes a financial adviser for those lousy pounds they made. It was a pittance.
 
Somewhere between 500 000 -> 250 000 ex-pats.
Well, that's quite a massive discrepancy.
I have to wonder about the rest of the article's figures and "facts".
 
According to a recent Adcorp survey, about 39 000 South African job-seekers returned from foreign countries over the past year. This figure is expected to rise to 120 000 as foreign work contracts expire.
And how many are returning by choice?
 
Travel Envy same as PE just PC.

one week more and The village idiot will be unleashed after 6 weeks with a gag.
 
So ? and I quote from the article " While the majority of the estimated 250 000 to 500 000 South Africans in the UK are expected to stick it out, .." what is your point ? Traitors eh, hmm so by your definition a person looking to improve their life and that of their family by moving to a first world country are traitors ? Do you personally know anyone that left and said "I will give a foreign government secret information about South Africa to bring about it's demise", if not then best to remove YOUR headline of "Traitors jump ship" and rename "Some Ex-pats return with better opportunities in SA than UK" but then that will not suit your political agenda here !
 
The UK has an unemployment rate of 7.9%, SA has an unemployment rate of 40%. I wonder who is better off.

And once again, this article is complete hogwash. What stats is this guy basing his info on? Home Affairs does not track statistics such as these.

And they are traitors? Tell me, how can they be viewed as traitors when their government excluded them from fully participating in the SA economy after voting for the scrapping of apartheid?
 
So ? and I quote from the article " While the majority of the estimated 250 000 to 500 000 South Africans in the UK are expected to stick it out, .." what is your point ? Traitors eh, hmm so by your definition a person looking to improve their life and that of their family by moving to a first world country are traitors ? Do you personally know anyone that left and said "I will give a foreign government secret information about South Africa to bring about it's demise", if not then best to remove YOUR headline of "Traitors jump ship" and rename "Some Ex-pats return with better opportunities in SA than UK" but then that will not suit your political agenda here !

there there
Im sure our DA alligned MODS will change it soon enough.
 
there there
Im sure our DA alligned MODS will change it soon enough.

BTW:

Traitor:
someone who betrays his country by committing treason

and if you dont understand treason

In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of betrayal of one's sovereign or nation. Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife (treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petit treason). A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

There there, I'm sure your ANC led education will make sense of all of this soon.
 
lol my ex went to the UK (she is a citizen because she wanted to work and travel then come back). She had this little dream in her head that I tried to put into reality for her....jobs are hard to get without qualifications etc etc. She has been there for 3 months and still jobless.Its a tough world
 
Nice to see that people that travel and work abroad are now being labeled as traitors. Most people I know did a "2 year working holiday" stint somewhere in the world, sometimes that 2 year working visa is turned into a 10 year one, but the idea of coming back to SA is/was always there (at least for me and my friends)
Traveling and working abroad does a few things for you, but the most important thing is you will be coming back with great work experience and knowledge, something you clearly do not have. IDIOT!
 
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