Transnet’s collapse in one graph

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Move along Transnet... Make way for the high speed trains..
 
ToxicBunny said:
No, we're bypassing the high-speed trains and going straight to bullet trains.
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You think they will get the basics correct this time right track for the right train. Maybe we should rather wait for flying trains that way we are sorted.
 
Quicks said:
You think they will get the basics correct this time right track for the right train. Maybe we should rather wait for flying trains that way we are sorted.
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They'll build something (maybe), then order the wrong trains... thats a given.

I suppose we should be grateful that Transnet cares so much about public safety that nobody will be able to be hurt on our bullet trains because they'll screw the process up so much it will never happen.
 
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What I don't see mentioned is the role South Africa's draconian Covid regulations had on rail freight.
 
Hush9300 said:
What I don't see mentioned is the role South Africa's draconian Covid regulations had on rail freight.
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You can see on the graph the downward trend in rail freight was underway well before COVID.

Then you can see the big surge down around 2020 where COVID hit.

Then you can also see from the graph that freight jumped back up to just about pre-COVID levels a little after that.

Then you can see the same pre-2020 downward trend simply continue onwards post-COVID.

This cannot be blamed on COVID. Sorry mate.
 
porchrat said:
You can see on the graph the downward trend in rail freight was underway well before COVID.

Then you can see the big surge down around 2020 where COVID hit.

Then you can also see from the graph that freight jumped back up to just about pre-COVID levels a little after that.

Then you can see the same pre-2020 downward trend simply continue onwards post-COVID.

This cannot be blamed on COVID. Sorry mate.
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Yet rail freight per the graph you use as gospel was stable even though road freight was booming. When Covid struck it went to hell for various reasons like vandalism and the theft of rail roads. It has never recovered.

You can try and dress it up as much you like but the gulf between road and freight was significantly influenced by South Africa's Covid kuk.
 
Hush9300 said:
Yet rail freight per the graph you use as gospel was stable even though road freight was booming. When Covid struck it went to hell for various reasons like vandalism and the theft of rail roads. It has never recovered.

You can try and dress it up as much you like but the gulf between road and freight was significantly influenced by South Africa's Covid kuk.
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You need to learn to read graphs better friend. You can see the rail freight decline starting around mid to late 2017. It coincides pretty neatly with the increase in road freight give or take about 6 months to a year.

You also realise that with an economy that's growing (economic growth figures back then weren't as in the toilet as they are now under God Emperor Cyril) you expect rail freight to increase, not stay static like it did all those years leading up to 2017 right? That slightly early increase in road freight is easily explained by private freight companies simply picking up the slack already abundantly visible in that very very static rail freight graph. Clearly leading up to the beginning of the 2017 decline trend Transnet was already failing to adequately invest in the rail network to expand to cover the demand.

You can also, very clearly, see that the rate of fall of rail freight pre-COVID pretty much matches post-COVID.

You can also see that road freight and rail freight BOTH took a massive dip around 2020 thanks to COVID. If anything road freight took a far larger knock.

Once again, you can't blame this on COVID mate. If I recall from previous posts you've made you're actively gargling the ANC's testicles. I get that you love the ANC, but it's their fault mate. Transnet collapsed under corruption and incompetence and this trend started well before COVID. There's no denying it.
 
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Hush9300 said:
Yet rail freight per the graph you use as gospel was stable even though road freight was booming. When Covid struck it went to hell for various reasons like vandalism and the theft of rail roads. It has never recovered.

You can try and dress it up as much you like but the gulf between road and freight was significantly influenced by South Africa's Covid kuk.
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No it wasn't.

The Covid kak didn't help the long term sustainability of rail freight but it's demise was already written in stone prior to covid happening and at best if covid hadn't happened it would have taken another year or two to get to current levels.
 
ToxicBunny said:
No it wasn't.

The Covid kak didn't help the long term sustainability of rail freight but it's demise was already written in stone prior to covid happening and at best if covid hadn't happened it would have taken another year or two to get to current levels.
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I disagree that it would even be another year or 2. That COVID blip doesn't seem to impact the trend line much at all. Collapse was coming around this time with or without COVID. Looks like the decline sped up badly around 2019.

Riiiight near the end there in 2023 there seems to be a slight improvement stopping the trend line falling off a cliff.

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porchrat said:
I disagree that it would even be another year or 2. That COVID blip doesn't seem to impact the trend line much at all. Collapse was coming around this time with or without COVID. Looks like the decline sped up badly around 2019.

Riiiight near the end there in 2023 there seems to be a slight improvement stopping the trend line falling off a cliff.

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I don't know enough about our rail system to say for sure but at least in kzn I know that covid sped up some of the vandalism, the floods then did a bit of a nail in the coffin as well.

I think covids biggest impact is likely to have been personnel who would have left shortly after it All settled down rather than fundamental infrastructure impact.
 
2 things always heralded the arrival of civilization, postal service and trains..

The ANC destroyed both (amongst others).

Decolonization wouldn't be such a laugh if the ones practicing it were content without their colonial toys, like electricity & tap water (amongst others).
 
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