TRT treatments advice needed

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ViciousClone

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So short story long on why i'm on trt

I was for 4-5 years on prednisone ( cortisone ), which was my own fault, could not afford medical aid at the time.
End of story :p

29 years old
76kg
1.78m
Healthy and workout 3 times a week

So after lots of blood tests and waiting for Low T to raise it just did not

Previous levels were at 8.9nmol/L

Dr. has me on a week to week 100mg injection which after 2 months brought these in-
T level Range 9.90-27.0nmol/L - Mine 20.0
SHBG Range 14.5- 48.4nmol/L - Mine 9.5 ( Not sure if this is bad but it shows very low on the paper )
Free T range 174 - 729 - Mine 688.3nmol/L

So as i understand it, free T is a better figure to go on and mine is spot on great!
Dr. wants to move me over to 200mg every second week, i feel this will cause issues ? Read a few people saying it brings in a dip cause you go past the half life. I've got 2 months left then he wants to stop the trt and go on clomid, clomid only!

Now i see forums saying clomid is not enough to help you regain T levels back to normal. And honestly i am scared of the idea, the mood swing, low sex drive, weak fatigue. A few to mention before the trt treatment...

So does anyone have advice i can carry over to my Dr. ?
 
The test used by doctors for TRT is usually a very long ester test such as test undecanoate (sold under the brand name Nebido), to facilitate fortnightly or even monthly shots. If it is Nebido or another test undecanoate brand name you'll be fine switching from weekly to fortnightly pins.

As for the PCT suggested, Clomid only is an incredibly outdated protocol and is no longer used in the non-medical (read bodybuilding) circles. That's the problem with doctors, many of them simply don't keep ahead of the latest methods and protocols used in certain medical fields. A much more effective protocol would be a combination of HCG, Clomid and Nolvadex. Speak to your doctor and ask him if he could get a second opinion on the best method to jump start your balls again.
 
Eedubz said:
The test used by doctors for TRT is usually a very long ester test such as test undecanoate (sold under the brand name Nebido), to facilitate fortnightly or even monthly shots. If it is Nebido or another test undecanoate brand name you'll be fine switching from weekly to fortnightly pins.

As for the PCT suggested, Clomid only is an incredibly outdated protocol and is no longer used in the non-medical (read bodybuilding) circles. That's the problem with doctors, many of them simply don't keep ahead of the latest methods and protocols used in certain medical fields. A much more effective protocol would be a combination of HCG, Clomid and Nolvadex. Speak to your doctor and ask him if he could get a second opinion on the best method to jump start your balls again.
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Sorry forgot to mention , it's Depo-Testosterone
 
Eedubz said:
As for the PCT suggested, Clomid only is an incredibly outdated protocol and is no longer used in the non-medical (read bodybuilding) circles. That's the problem with doctors, many of them simply don't keep ahead of the latest methods and protocols used in certain medical fields. A much more effective protocol would be a combination of HCG, Clomid and Nolvadex. Speak to your doctor and ask him if he could get a second opinion on the best method to jump start your balls again.
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This is why i'm asking, as clomid alone i cant see doing the job and would only take months again to regain normal functioning balls
 
djbrendan said:
Sorry forgot to mention , it's Depo-Testosterone
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Should be fine, Depo is just test cypionate which is one of the longest/longer esters. Undecanoate is the longest, but cyp should be ok for fortnightly pins. It wouldn't be ideal for bodybuilding dosages though, but TRT dosages shouldn't cause too much trouble with regard to hormone level fluctuations.
 
djbrendan said:
This is why i'm asking, as clomid alone i cant see doing the job and would only take months again to regain normal functioning balls
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My bet is that what he knows now and uses in his practice is what he learnt in the 70s in medical school. Medicine is forever progressing and evolving but many doctors don't keep up with the times if it isn't a field they often have to work in.

Is he a GP or an endo?
 
Eedubz said:
My bet is that what he knows now and uses in his practice is what he learnt in the 70s in medical school. Medicine is forever progressing and evolving but many doctors don't keep up with the times if it isn't a field they often have to work in.

Is he a GP or an endo?
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Gp i belive

He did send me to a urologist 1st before all of this. But yeah he's not a young Dr. but he is good in what he does.

But like you said, i feel as well he isn't up to date with trt and post cycles. Hcg and clomid seem to be a good combo for guys coming off trt i read ( went through google quickly )

Thing is how do i get him to pin me hcg after the trt
 
djbrendan said:
Gp i belive

He did send me to a urologist 1st before all of this. But yeah he's not a young Dr. but he is good in what he does.

But like you said, i feel as well he isn't up to date with trt and post cycles. Hcg and clomid seem to be a good combo for guys coming off trt i read ( went through google quickly )

Thing is how do i get him to pin me hcg after the trt
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Get hold of it yourself and do your own PCT ;)
 
Eedubz said:
Should be fine, Depo is just test cypionate which is one of the longest/longer esters. Undecanoate is the longest, but cyp should be ok for fortnightly pins. It wouldn't be ideal for bodybuilding dosages though, but TRT dosages shouldn't cause too much trouble with regard to hormone level fluctuations.
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To be honest

at the start we did 150mg a week, i saw a lot quicker results, not massive, normal gains you'd expect if you were at a good T level.
 
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