True Broardband vs ADSL

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Richardc

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Hello, I'm wondering if anyone can answer a question for me.

Telkom offer various flavours of ADSL, at what I believe to be higher than average
prices compared to other countries. Is there, and if so what exactly is the difference
between ADSL and True Broadband if any, I've been lead to believe that Telkom do not
offer True Broardband in the, erm, true meaning of the word.

I'd imagine it has something to do with the up and downstream speeds. Can someone
please elaborate. Thanks..
 
People were going on about telkom offering 192K, cause its slow etc... Now the new ICASA regs said 256K down/128K up is True broadband or somethin'..

512K is good, but its still not the best.

I consider Telkom's 4mbit very very nice. It gives us a taste of the future *were basically 5-6years behind USA/UK*

USA and UK have 8mbps upto 30mbps connections, mostly all uncapped too. I think it taiwan they have 1gbps already.
 
And in California they have recently demonstrated their 100Gbps connection which they are planning to implement soon.
 
I think the meaning of True Braodband is also a flexable ont, to a certain extent, depending on where you are in the world. To some countries true broadband might be looked at as being a 1mbps line and others might agree that a 4mbps is the standard to look at. In SA, as Napalm said, ICASA decided that 256kbps/128kbps is the minimum standard. I'm sure as better technology and speeds are implemented the goal posts might be shifted.

PS: Yes Telkom is way more expensive than the average rate for broadband, globaly.
 
There is an article on this at www.hellkom.co.za .... you will just need to find it as the main page is big (portraying all the bad things about telkom and our poor state of affairs in the communications industry----which is a hell of a lot to talk about).

As I remember though true broadband is "always on connectivity". Telkom resets your ip every 24 hours so already that definition has been breached. Also we have now only touched broadband speeds as an international standard.

I work in the IT support sector of an international company and will be the first to say technology really flies, there is always something new and better....(something that Telkom cannot for the life of me suss out). So broadband is not 512k anymore...not even 1mbps. A standard today should be starting at around 2mbps-4mbps, which is impossible to obtain via Telkom because they steal your life away with their prices.
 
Maybe ICASA shifted the definition of "Broardband" to 256K to help Telkom out a bit. Hey, if you can't make the standard, you might as well thow the dart and then draw the target afterwards.:mad:
 
Richardc said:
Maybe ICASA shifted the definition of "Broardband" to 256K to help Telkom out a bit. Hey, if you can't make the standard, you might as well thow the dart and then draw the target afterwards.:mad:
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Yeah the African way of keeping up with progress...:sick:
 
raVid said:
And in California they have recently demonstrated their 100Gbps connection which they are planning to implement soon.
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Are you sure about this? Do you mean 100mb/s by any chance?

I think 100Gbps is a bit high for commercial use, what is the point at all? Are you sure isn't just for some university network or anything.. a link would be nice :)
 
Personally 2Mbps would be the minimum to, in my opinion, experience broadband.. albeit at the lower end of the speed scale.
 
Yeah I think most people would agree 2Mbps is basic in this day and age. The fact that we still measure our speeds in Kbps and not Mbps is quite embarrasing..
 
feo said:
Yeah I think most people would agree 2Mbps is basic in this day and age. The fact that we still measure our speeds in Kbps and not Mbps is quite embarrasing..
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No it's not - my 0.384 mbps connection kicks ass. :p
 
Ekhaatvensters said:
Are you sure about this? Do you mean 100mb/s by any chance?

I think 100Gbps is a bit high for commercial use, what is the point at all? Are you sure isn't just for some university network or anything.. a link would be nice :)
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http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/infinera-unveils-100gbps-ethernet-connection/

Even Googles has a hiccup about that speed

http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=100Gbps+connection+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr=lang_en

Did you mean: 100mbps connection
 
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Paul_S said:
No it's not - my 0.384 mbps connection kicks ass. :p
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Yeah! Mine too. Especially the last day of the month.
When I think I am using the 33K Modem that Telkom won. :D
 
Germany is rolling out VDSL, so that they can provide triple play services. Telkom haven't even begun with ADSL2+, so there isn't much hope for "proper" broadband.

VDSL2 is currently available in 10 major cities with up to 25 Mbit/s downstream and 5 Mbit/s upstream. The technology is being used by former incumbent Deutsche Telekom who is planning to invest ca. € 3 billion to set up the requisite VDSL infrastructure in 50 cities until ca. 2007; despite a ruling by the European Commission in December 2004 that would force the company to make parts of this new infrastructure immediately available to competitors, deployment is ongoing. The extent and the terms of infrastructure access are still to be determined.
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Nod said:
Germany is rolling out VDSL, so that they can provide triple play services. Telkom haven't even begun with ADSL2+, so there isn't much hope for "proper" broadband.
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Now that is a sad article on several counts.

1. The speeds they're talking about are way beyond what we have here.

2. If their triple play services require such high speeds then what are Telkom going to be offering on our "4mpbs" connections which don't even work as advertised? Jerky, postage stamp sized, streaming video?

3. They are investing huge amounts of money even though they are aware that competitors may end up using their infrastructure! Can you imagine Telkom doing that? :eek:
 
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