Trying to sell a car

[Jah]

A little help please.

I'm trying to sell a car on behalf of my dad. Here is the problem though, when he paid off the car years ago (2009) he received all the paperwork from the bank to initiate the transfer of title/ownership (Letter, Id of proxy, yellow form and licence form), but didn't seem to actually go through with the change. Obviously this was a lot longer than the 21days ago required to do this. What do I need to do (on his behalf as he is overseas now) in order to sell the vehicle?

 

[xrapidx]

I think you pay a fine for each "period" (can't remember if its month or year)

 

[D3x!]

if the car was scrapped i think you will have to go through the process of getting it licensed from scratch, police clearance, roadworthy etc etc

 

[Jah]

Would you be able to pay the licence disk renewal if the car was actually scrapped?

 

[D3x!]

Would you be able to pay the licence disk renewal if the car was actually scrapped?

erm no, how can you renew something that doesnt exist?

 

[Jah]

Ok cool, really didn't want to go through the whole re-licensing procedure. Hopefully I'll just be able to pay some penalties and be done with it.

 

[HapticSimian]

The car will be licensed in your dad's name, but the titleholder (or owner, effectively) will still be whichever bank it was financed through. Now, in the past the licensing department would've been happy to accept the paid-up letter from the bank as sufficient proof that your dad's entitled to sell the car to a third party. Unfortunately this is ostensibly no longer the case; the buyer will only be able to re-register the car in his name once it's been successfully transferred to your dad's.

The bank should have sent the original registration document with the yellow form & their proxy documents (couple of certified IDs usually). You'll need to fill in your dad's details on a) the yellow form the bank sent. You'll also need to complete b) a blue form specifying him as both license holder & new titleholder (owner). You'll need a certified copy of his ID for (a), and the same plus proof of address for (b). (a) is the transfer of ownership, (b) is to get a new license disc after ownership has been transferred. Whoever buys the car will need the 'new' original registration document you'll get after handing in (a), along with another yellow form (with your dad's details filled in the appropriate section) and another certified copy of your dad's ID.

Whether the licensing department will accept 3-year old documentation from the bank is another matter altogether. I'd suggest going to your local licensing office and speaking to the manager on duty; perhaps you'll be lucky enough to find someone that is willing to assist you.

Beyond forging the odd signature (and I'm not saying you should) there's not much you can do on his behalf. Depending on how by the book various people along the line are you might well end up needing to courier forms to and fro, and having him speak to the bank personally.

Good luck - I went through the same exact process with my old man not 3 months ago. He lives 3km from me and it was still a glorious pain in the arse.

 

[Jah]

Thanks HS. Yeah, I suspected I would have these sorts of issues. In terms of b, would it be required if he is still at the same address (he's overseas temporarily)? He is still owns the property with the original address (family is staying there atm). In terms of signatures etc, I have general power of attorney so that hopefully wont be too much of an issue.

 

[HapticSimian]

Thanks HS. Yeah, I suspected I would have these sorts of issues. In terms of b, would it be required if he is still at the same address (he's overseas temporarily)? He is still owns the property with the original address (family is staying there atm). In terms of signatures etc, I have general power of attorney so that hopefully wont be too much of an issue.

Yup, still required. The left hand doesn't know what the right's doing at the best of times at the licensing department; expecting them to use any logic or forethought whatsoever is just asking for a headache. If the utilities bill is still in his name that's probably your best bet for proof of address.

My old man's been at the same address for 35 years - "blue form, please".

 

[Jah]

Ok thanks, I'm going to ask the bank nicely if they'll reissue the letter/proxy stuff first (I have their licence document already). Hopefully that will ease the process. I have a utility bill in his name so no worries there.