TV Purchase Scenario

I never managed to go I called the branch in Diep River. I think I will go to the Tokia branch over the weekend.

I think may have got the Mhz/HZ wrong he must have said 120 or 150 Hz and he said there is 55inch Sony with 200Hz.

I have also been checking out the reviews and only negative seems to be the sound. I need to check one out playing something other than demo stuff.

I am gonna be going Tokai the weekend any other place in Cape Town anyone can suggest?
 
Which Tafelberg? I would go to the Tokai branch.

Did he show you judder on the PS51E8000? Assuming not since you say you suspect they can't get that model.

No such thing as 150MHz/Hz. Ask him why plasma has 600Hz. :D That ought to confuse him.

Reviews for the PS51E8000 are very positive.

why does plasma have 600hz and lcd 50/100/200

i noticed i dont like 100hz cause on the led with normal tv viewing the picture left like a shadow

and howcome you cant notice it on the plasma
 
why does plasma have 600hz and lcd 50/100/200

i noticed i dont like 100hz cause on the led with normal tv viewing the picture left like a shadow

Marketing gimmick. Plasmas are made up of 10 fields of 60Hz, so they say 10*60Hz = 600Hz in order to inflate numbers to trick customers. It then "competes" with LCD Hz ratings which is nonsense. Unfortunately when you combine the general public's willingness to buy into marketing, TV salesmen can sell anything by abusing these marketer fibs.

Other examples are:

1) Samsung's CMR motion rating up to like 800 CMR (400Hz). Often mis-advertised as CMR Hz or even just Hz in brochures.

2) Contrast ratios of 1,000,000s to 1 which are dynamic (normally "Dynamic" picture mode on the TV) which is exaggerated and measured with the screen pumping out brightness and over saturated colours. This simply means that not only are colours inaccurate, but when there are bright areas on the screen, darker areas cannot display properly either. Perhaps the best tactic used is on brightly lit showroom floors where TVs are all set to dynamic modes to make them stand out to customers.

3) Millisecond response times in PC screens. Inaccurate and usually measured with grey to grey when it should be black to white/colours etc. It's perceived to be accurate and better, giving rise to users/gamers who must have a 2ms screen instead of a 5 or even 12ms screen of higher LCD panel/picture quality.

Since plasma is self-illuminated and not back-lit, it generally has a higher static contrast ratio. Greater difference between the whitest white and darkest black, as well as the ability to better distinguish between them with more detail in dark areas, especially while bright areas are displaying.

and howcome you cant notice it on the plasma

Not quite sure but probably because 100+Hz LCDs are adding more of their own data to the source/feed to smooth it out, and not doing a good job of it perhaps due to the lower source quality.
 
I just called Tafelberg and wanted a price on the Samsung Series 8 and salesman i spoke to tells me that the series 8 in his opinion is not worth the 6K extra compared to the E550 and then goes on to tell me that he feels that 150Mhz LCD/LED is as good if not better than a Plasma. He says that a Plasma has juddering compared to 150+Mhz LED/LCD and he show me. When I say I have read that Samsung has a dual core processor he tell me that for the internet no the TV refresh rate.

Mmm maybe they cant get that particular model Samsung.

There was some plasma's that experienced judder, but I think it was the previous years model, not sure if it carried over to the E550. Also he is correct the processor isn't for the screen processing but rather for the "smart" part of the TV. Also the issue with LCD's with CMR is that the image tends to look sped up, it's unnatural I tell you :-).
 
There was some plasma's that experienced judder, but I think it was the previous years model, not sure if it carried over to the E550. Also he is correct the processor isn't for the screen processing but rather for the "smart" part of the TV. Also the issue with LCD's with CMR is that the image tends to look sped up, it's unnatural I tell you :-).

Ok now I am getting confused and I warn you it doesn't take much lol

So some plasma's experience judder now i was under the impression that the main reason that plasma is better than LCD/LED is that it has no judder due to plasma has faster refresh rate. Yes naturally colour also comes into it but in the end you have to have a good picture to enjoy good natural colour.

I have noticed that PS51E8000 has Dejudder (smooth) processing http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-pn51e8000/4505-6482_7-35117934.html so I am guessing that limits that happening.

So do you get more judder on a LCD/LED vs Plasma. I think the PS51E550 may have an issue with judder cause i remember someone posted that judder could be seen on the clip with colour of wind or something like that.
 
Ok now I am getting confused and I warn you it doesn't take much lol
Dont be, if your preference is for the look of a plasma picture, then just go get one. Preferably a Samsung in the absence of the Panasonic NeoPlasma range (ST/GT/VT) being widely available here. Compare the E550 & E8000 to see if the PQ and features of the E8000 are worth the extra ±R7000 (for 51").

Like most plasmas, both will exhibit some amount of judder depending on content format/frame rate, as neither do frame interpolation like a 100Hz+ LCD/LED. How apparent this will be to you will depend on experience, I notice it easily as I also have a 200CMR LED, but it may be barely noticeable to you.
 
Thanks again for input guys.

I posted in the other the other thread that Postmanpot gave and asked or some input about juddering etc

Look let me throw you guys a curve ball.

Yes I like a the kind of pic the plasma gives compared to the LCD/LED but the question I ask is:

Taking picture color out of the equation which give the better picture and better all round use ie movies sport gaming
 
Taking picture color out of the equation which give the better picture and better all round use ie movies sport gaming
With mid-to-high end name brand TVs these day, you cant really go wrong, most do the job very well. In my experience being an owner of both, LED vs plasma mainly comes down to personal preference, they do produce a slightly different picture/motion.

The one thing you can do wrong is to hook them up to low fidelity hardware and feed them with poor quality content. This will make more of a significant difference than between technologies/models, so dont spend all your money on the display only.
 
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