Ubuntu is not a Democracy

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The storm over Ubuntu's new radical makeover
How surprised would you be, if I walked up to you and told you that every human needs oxygen to survive? I'm assuming that you wouldn't at all be surprised - you might start feeling a little uneasy that a random stranger walked up to you with such a crazy question, but you wouldn't be surprised by the we-need-oxygen fact. Apparently, people are surprised that Ubuntu is not a democracy.

As most of you are probably well aware of now, the Ubuntu team is currently testing a brand new theme for the Ubuntu 10.04, which is part of a massive branding overhaul for the popular Linux distribution and associated software. And if there's one thing people can get worked up over, it's pretty colours.

Apart from the colours, there's a much more important change that's part of the new theme. The Ubuntu designers have decided to move the window border widgets to the left side of the window (like in Mac OS X). The reason for moving them to the left side is apparently to free up space on the right side, where the team wants to do something in the future. "Moving everything to the left opens up the space on the right nicely, and I would like to experiment in 10.10 with some innovative options there," Mark Shuttleworth explains, "It's much easier to do that if we make this change now."

Left, right, middle - it's all the same to me. I used to be a full-time BeOS user, I've used QNX as my main desktop back when that was still possible, and I've owned a whole boatload of Macs, so I'm comfortable with wherever the darn window border widgets are placed.

There is however one more curious thing about Ubuntu's new theme: the position of the close window widget. It's not located in the top-left corner - as any sane person would expect - instead, they've opted for putting it as the third button from the left. By any standard, this is just plain weird, and it seems a lot of people agree with that notion.

In a long discussion attached to a bug report in Ubuntu's Launchpad about this, people were wondering why such a massive change was made without their consent; they were feeling left out. "We are supposed to be a community, we all use Ubuntu and contribute to it, and we deserve some respect regarding these kind of decisions. We all make Ubuntu together, or is it a big lie?" wonders Pablo Quirós, "If you want to tell us that we are all part of it, we want information, and we want our opinion to be decisive."

Shuttleworth's reply was clear. "We all make Ubuntu, but we do not all make all of it," he writes, "This is not a democracy. Good feedback, good data, are welcome. But we are not voting on design decisions."

All this is ruffling some feathers here and there. While the concerns regarding the location of the window border widgets is legit, in my opinion, the concerns regarding the policies of it all are not. Open source or Free software does not mean democracy. It's more NATO and less UN (if that makes any sense). The Linux kernel project, GNOME, KDE - none of those are democracies. A relatively small group of people are the ones making the decisions, and that's a good thing.

This is open source. Code, and be included with the big boys.
http://www.osnews.com/story/23039/Kicking_in_Open_Doors_Open_Source_Is_Not_a_Democracy
 

Mercurious

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If everyone had a say in every aspect of an opensource project then the pace of development would be a lot slower. One thing that the opensource nature of Ubuntu provides is the ability for those who don't like how Ubuntu does things to fork and create their own project just the way they like it. And it is relatively easy to change the placement of the buttons or themes. This should definitely not be a big deal.
 

DrJohnZoidberg

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Ubuntu tweak can move the buttons where you want them. I'm impressed with their visual overhaul, it desperately needed one.
 

DUDE!@##$%%

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i didnt finish reading...
but is it just me or was that whole thing about where a widget is going?
even though i thought you could move that stuff around in ubuntu??
 

MyWorld

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It seems my comment got removed...
What I said, posting only this article gives a very one sided view of what transpired.
On the mailing lists one of the devs made it quite clear, if you are not on one of the development teams then you do not have much say on the final product/release, and to me this is fair. If you want to be heard or have a say in how it should be or how it should be done, join a development team and stop standing on the sideline shouting insults.

Unfortunately the OS crowd is experts at this latter part.
 
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