Ubuntu Linux 5.04 AMD64

Man, I only noticed now how far outta whack this thread went - my Bad, sorry ! :D

BTW, tried the drivers on Slackware way back when, before I hooked up with an Ethernet cable and almost got them working, there was something I was missing somewhere - could get the lights to flash, but no connection. I got all the kernel modules built, but couldn't get PPP to hook up properly, due to lack of knowledge, so make sure to brush up on that.

TheRodents instructions are dead simple however - good documentation.

If you need help with Kernel compiling, just ask away, it's actually pretty damn easy.

Good luck general_koffi - keep hacking away at it.
 
Ethernet cable price

regardtv said:
Personally, to avoid the nightmares I'd suggest the ethernet cable .... if you need one you can have my old one at R 150.00 ... no idea what they sell for these days.

General_koffi, R150 for an ethernet cable is madness, you could probably get one from a PC shop for about R30.

Just my 2 cents. :D
 
Heh @ ic; yes the cable does do fancy things: (for the benefit of shane101), the cable in question has the MyWi modem connector on one side and an RJ45 on t'other.

If you look at the bottom of http://www.justconnect.co.za/products.html under "Extra items", you'll see that the official retail price is R225 ..which makes an offer of R150 not half bad!

..just to set the record straight ;)
-bdt
 
Indeed, as bdt, and IC have aluded. The MyWireless modem "ethernet cable" is really a proprietary USB - Ethernet bridge. Hence the price tag.
 
Success !

I'm posting this using Ubuntu-hoary-live-i366 !

The driver is INCLUDED on the CD. The commands was :
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/ipw.ko

In /etc/ppp/peers create a file called 'sentech' with the following (substitute) :

noipdefault
/dev/ttyUSB0
115200
defaultroute
usepeerdns
hide-password
lcp-echo-interval 60
lcp-echo-failure 3
connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/peers/sentech-chat"
noauth
# persist
mtu 1400
user "username"
maxfail 1
deflate 15

In /etc/ppp/peers/sentech-chat create a file with the following :
TIMEOUT 30
ABORT "NO CARRIER"
ABORT "BUSY"
ECHO ON
SAY "Dialling sentech...\n"
"" \rAT
"OK-+++\c-OK" ATH0
OK ATZ
OK AT+CGDCONT=1,"PPP","sentech.co.za","username,password",0,0
OK ATD*99#
SAY "Waiting up 30 seconds for connection ... "
CONNECT ""

In /etc/ppp/chap-secrets create a file with the following (substitute) :
username * password *

Now run
pppd nodetach call sentech
 
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And may I add : That live CD is amazing ! I popped it in the drive, waited for it to boot and 2 clicks later I was surfing. It autodetected my WLAN and configured the extra buttons on my touchpad correctly.

Linux is not crippled. It's just a bit behind due to non-cooperation from the hardware manufacturers.

b.t.w. the reason it took so long for me to download the CD was that I don't have broadband connection, even though I'm paying for one.
 
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I guess it could see the demise of Debian after all, or at least relegate it right to the backburner - that depends, I suppose, on how many of its core developers are commited to debian as opposed to notable success and popularity ?

As a debian dev, the temptation to jump onto the Ubuntu ship must be intense - the idea of getting paid to do what you love and land yourself in a company that will more likely than not be in business for at least another 5 years.

Of course, this will only really effect people who are debian fans and fanatics, the rest of us will just see Ubuntu go from strength to strength as another Linux distribution "going commercial"

I'll stick with Slackware I think ...
 
Ubuntu

Is there somewhere where the Ubuntu discussion can go on? I think it's quite interesting. I am a huge fan of Ubuntu and Mr. Mark, but had also wondered for quite some time why Ubuntu was not, in actual fact, a product of South Africa.

But say we wanted a person who doesn't care HOW* their computer works to run Linux so that under the covers everything can remain free and fair and not owned by corporates who can make us their slaves by them having all the knowledge. We would need someone who can kill all the marketing fluff that comes out of the richest company in the world. And we know that if they said OJ didn't do it, most of the world would believe them.

So is there another way besides what Ubuntu is doing? Isn't the only thing that can kill marketing and propaganda, marketing and propaganda? In an imperfect world we have to accept these marketing people because other people believe them, and those people have money. This is why I can't run my games on Linux.

Ubuntu has to make money on the side somehow - not because Mr. Mark doesn't have enough but because he wants it to be self-sustaining and not die out when he does. Ubuntu also has to establish such evils as brand and credibility with corporate clowns who don't know anything but hype.

Man, I can't even get my wife to run Linux. Some of my clients refuse to use Firefox even though it's more convenient, safer and would cost them no effort or money. I can't explain it but they actually trust IE more than Firefox, because they see Microsoft as this giant and wonderous organisation that makes good quality software for the world.

Anyway, Mark can throw his weight because he has it, and no-one can kill Debian or any other distro, hiring programmers or not**. Ubuntu itself will always be free and open source, and Linux will be everywhere, and that is what matters to me. Debian is being used, as all Linuxes always have been***, but this time it's for the good of us all.

L

*Most people don't care HOW their computer, TV or anything else works, which basically what is wrong with the world

**What? Slackware is still going? Is 50000 distro's not just an incredible duplication of effort on atomic bomb scale? Sometimes I think 'choice' is just an excuse to write what you want to write OVER AGAIN because you couldn't be bothered to learn someone else's system. If some Linux developers just united we'd lose some choice, but man, would there be any software left to write?

***In fact, Hans Reiser caught someone who stole his code and now gets royalties from them. I'm pretty sure OS is creeping into proprietry code at an incredible rate as developers steal it. That sucks.
 
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