Unabridged certificates, random questions.

[AstroTurf]

So our family is planning on a "Visit" to the UK in the next few years.

My Wife was born in England and emigrated to South Africa with her family at the age of 4.

We want to get her and our two children's UK Passports sorted.

Anyway, here lies the problem:

My son got an unabridged certificate when he was born, only they spelled the metro my wife was born in wrong (Wilverhampton instead of Wolverhampton). How do we repair this?

My Daughter got an abridged certificate (she was born before they handed unabridged ones out at birth). How do we get this?

We need an unabridged wedding certificate, again, how do we get this?

Think we can take a month off work and camp at home affairs to get all 3 done at once?
What do we need to take with us?

Of course getting the UK Passports should be a breeze compared to the above.

 

[Paul Kemp]

Based in Orange Grove(ish)
Went through my mails just to check pricing. Paid R2250ea for them to expedite the vault copies. Took about 2 days iirc.

Done the applications at DHA and for those plus passports meant 4 mornings(6am - 12) in the DHA queues.

 

[ArmatageShanks]

What do you mean "visit"

Sounds like you are planning to never come back

 

[s0lar]

So our family is planning on a "Visit" to the UK in the next few years.

My Wife was born in England and emigrated to South Africa with her family at the age of 4.

We want to get her and our two children's UK Passports sorted.

Anyway, here lies the problem:

My son got an unabridged certificate when he was born, only they spelled the metro my wife was born in wrong (Wilverhampton instead of Wolverhampton). How do we repair this?

My Daughter got an abridged certificate (she was born before they handed unabridged ones out at birth). How do we get this?

We need an unabridged wedding certificate, again, how do we get this?

Think we can take a month off work and camp at home affairs to get all 3 done at once?
What do we need to take with us?

Of course getting the UK Passports should be a breeze compared to the above.

I recently used these guys for the family. That being a range of certificates from both high court and dirco that being marriage, birth and others I required for emigration.

Definitely recommend them. They didn’t only source the certificates but also gave us advice as to which certs were required as well as required supporting documents.

CERTIFICATE ASSIST SA

Unabridged Certificate Assistance with Home Affairs certificates, Vault birth copy, Unabridged birth certificate, Unabridged marriage certificate

certificateassistsa.co.za

 

[MiW]

So our family is planning on a "Visit" to the UK in the next few years.

My Wife was born in England and emigrated to South Africa with her family at the age of 4.

We want to get her and our two children's UK Passports sorted.

Anyway, here lies the problem:

My son got an unabridged certificate when he was born, only they spelled the metro my wife was born in wrong (Wilverhampton instead of Wolverhampton). How do we repair this?

My Daughter got an abridged certificate (she was born before they handed unabridged ones out at birth). How do we get this?

We need an unabridged wedding certificate, again, how do we get this?

Think we can take a month off work and camp at home affairs to get all 3 done at once?
What do we need to take with us?

Of course getting the UK Passports should be a breeze compared to the above.

After waiting 4 years for unabridged certificate from HA , my conclusion was that HA lost the records. Paid around R800 to doc assist in Pretoria got a new one made (from inside HA officials) with slightly wrong details, in less than a month.

So my guess is for a few hundred bucks they can fix everything.

 

[Tman*]

After waiting 4 years for unabridged certificate from HA , my conclusion was that HA lost the records. Paid around R800 to doc assist in Pretoria got a new one made (from inside HA officials) with slightly wrong details, in less than a month.

So my guess is for a few hundred bucks they can fix everything.

I can also vouch for doc assist.

If I recall correctly they assisted me with an UBC in about a month and an UMC in about 6.

 

[DapperDanMan]

Think we can take a month off work and camp at home affairs to get all 3 done at once?

Yes, but that could easily end in divorce ...

 

[Tman*]

Think we can take a month off work and camp at home affairs to get all 3 done at once?

This wont help, perhaps I can provide some extra info on the expedited service I used via Doc Assist.

1. You physically go to DOHA to appy for all your various unnabridged certs.
2. Once done you call DOHA call centre to confirm the application is on the system
3. You then inform your expediting service provider as such. They escalate internally (however thats done, I dont even want to know).
4. The expediting service provider tells you when its ready for collection. Very NB. For something like an UMC you as the person that got married need to collect. You cant send a proxy. (I tried to collect for a friend too as I was already at DOHA. They said that they can only give to the person that applied, or a family member with the same last name).

 

[AstroTurf]

This wont help, perhaps I can provide some extra info on the expedited service I used via Doc Assist.

1. You physically go to DOHA to appy for all your various unnabridged certs.
2. Once done you call DOHA call centre to confirm the application is on the system
3. You then inform your expediting service provider as such. They escalate internally (however thats done, I dont even want to know).
4. The expediting service provider tells you when its ready for collection. Very NB. For something like an UMC you as the person that got married need to collect. You cant send a proxy. (I tried to collect for a friend too as I was already at DOHA. They said that they can only give to the person that applied, or a family member with the same last name).

Thank you.

We are in no hurry to get it all together and have at least 2 to 3 years but because of reading about everyone else's issues on this forum over the years we decided we will slowly start getting it all together.

I don't mind if it takes 6 months but then again, this is the SA government so it could also just get lost in the system if we don't expedite.

 

[Tman*]

Thank you.

We are in no hurry to get it all together and have at least 2 to 3 years but because of reading about everyone else's issues on this forum over the years we decided we will slowly start getting it all together.

I don't mind if it takes 6 months but then again, this is the SA government so it could also just get lost in the system if we don't expedite.

I have friends waiting in excess if 18 months for unabridged certs. It will most certainly be a good idea to get that started sooner than later.

 

[Claymore]

I can also vouch for doc assist.

If I recall correctly they assisted me with an UBC in about a month and an UMC in about 6.

Got contact details for them? I applied for an unabridged birth cert for my son back in 2015 or so, still waiting. I still have the invoice...

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

I have friends waiting in excess if 18 months for unabridged certs. It will most certainly be a good idea to get that started sooner than later.

I have contact details for people in DHA that actually responds to emails. Also the DA has an assistance address as well. If you have time, I'd try these first. Got a birth certificate and marriage certificate within the official timeline, no problems.

 

[Priapus]

Thank you.

We are in no hurry to get it all together and have at least 2 to 3 years but because of reading about everyone else's issues on this forum over the years we decided we will slowly start getting it all together.

I don't mind if it takes 6 months but then again, this is the SA government so it could also just get lost in the system if we don't expedite.

Just remember you need vault copies of the birth certs. Not Unabridged. Going through this process now for my son.

 

[rh1]

It was an 30 minute at the Home Affairs office and and about two weeks and a fee, before we got my daughters unabridge certificate. The school required it.

 

[AstroTurf]

Just remember you need vault copies of the birth certs. Not Unabridged. Going through this process now for my son.

Yea we are finding this out as you are

As added fun, Wife does not have an unabridged birth certificate but I am pretty sure it will be easier to get that from the UK than it is going to be to get the kids their stuff.

 

[Priapus]

Yea we are finding this out as you are

As added fun, Wife does not have an unabridged birth certificate but I am pretty sure it will be easier to get that from the UK than it is going to be to get the kids their stuff.

Probably, yeah.

My wife was also born in the UK; but she has her British passport, it's just our son's passport we need to get sorted - as we are going to the UK for a visit in July. Don't want to apply for a visa for him - but it's looking like we will have to apply for a visitor visa for him, too.

 

[AstroTurf]

Probably, yeah.

My wife was also born in the UK; but she has her British passport, it's just our son's passport we need to get sorted - as we are going to the UK for a visit in July. Don't want to apply for a visa for him - but it's looking like we will have to apply for a visitor visa for him, too.

That sucks but hopefully you get the passport sorted before then.

My wife's parents moved here with her when she was 4 years old.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

It was an 30 minute at the Home Affairs office and and about two weeks and a fee, before we got my daughters unabridge certificate. The school required it.

After 2006 - I think - they gave everyone unabridged birth certs by default. So if you need a new copy, it's basically a reprint. The people born before 2006, the unabridged needs to be "made" I suppose. So it takes way longer.

 

[AstroTurf]

After 2006 - I think - they gave everyone unabridged birth certs by default. So if you need a new copy, it's basically a reprint. The people born before 2006, the unabridged needs to be "made" I suppose. So it takes way longer.

Our daughter was born in 2008 and got abridged but we need vaulted anyway :/

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

Our daughter was born in 2008 and got abridged but we need vaulted anyway :/

Oh. Well then the DHA guy lied to me. Or he had his dates wrong. Our son was born in 2019, and he got his unabriged. So it did change, somewhere between 2008 and 2019 - maybe it was different per DHA branch? Ours was Randburg.