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Pooky

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AUP's, endless threads about getting throttled on an uncapped connection.

It's really pathetic.

If you want to give us uncapped, please make it more than a bloody gimmick.

UNCAPPED 10mbs but if you use more than X amount then we will throttle you BITCH so BEWARE of our AUP...


Come on ISPs you are really pulling some crap tactics here. 'Business' uncapped and 'Home' uncapped; Gold Silver and Bronze uncapped? REALLY? Next thing we will be getting dirt and poop uncapped...

Uncapped uncapped uncapped I am tired of all this crap.

Give us a straight answer; transparent info on what we are getting and stop being so bloody vague about all your special offerings dammit!

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Well, I can understand the need for having AUPs and the like in South Africa, but I really think some ISPs take it too far. I'm not sure what it's like now that they're on IS, but look at the way WebAfrica always implemented their uncapped. They actually told you how much you were allowed to use and their thresholds were ridiculously low. Something like essentially 56gb per month on a 1mb uncapped.

AUPs are fine, but any ISP needs to accept that anyone who needs uncapped likely gets uncapped instead of capped because they have higher bandwidth needs. Limiting your customers to excessively low thresholds on an uncapped product is simply wrong.

Anyway, imo, the moment an ISP tells you how much you're allowed to use or they throttle you to nearly unusable speeds for using 'too much' uncapped, then it is not an uncapped product, but merely a soft-capped product being passed off as uncapped.
 
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I think most people, if not all will agree with your sentiment Pooky.
I'm not a very high end user when it comes to uncapped (About 120GB per month on a 4Mbps line), so I'm usually not affected.

Line speeds do have theoretical max download limit. Work on those limits for the various line speeds.
If someone then surpasses that amount, then have the AUP's kick in, because then someone is probably using methods to get more downloaded.

That is my opinion obviously and I do not know enough about the ISP side that would influence or change that opinion.
 
Im on my 2nd uncapped account.

First was Afrihost when the whole uncapped saga started and it was pathetic. I seem to remember getting throttled heavily at like 20GB lol...

Now Im on Telkom uncapped and so far this month I am on about 50GB on a 2MB line and all is well besides youtube at the moment.
 
Pooky said:
AUP's, endless threads about getting throttled on an uncapped connection.

It's really pathetic.

If you want to give us uncapped, please make it more than a bloody gimmick.
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Speed, quality, price, pick two. (IOW, if you don't like uncapped, take capped). However, you may want to try TI uncapped first (unfortunately we don't have trial accounts yet).
 
ranger said:
Speed, quality, price, pick two. (IOW, if you don't like uncapped, take capped). However, you may want to try TI uncapped first (unfortunately we don't have trial accounts yet).
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Thank you, I have just sent my cancellation form to MWEB as I want to use 2mb uncapped, and theirs is throttled.

I see Telkom's got a 2mb uncapped for only R10 more than Web Africa, who I was going to try. Anyone have experience with Telkom's uncapped, I don't want to get throttled and my usage is on average 100gigs per month.
 
Having an Acceptable Usage Policy in place isn't really the problem, it's having one in place that has very specific and transparent policies that everyone is looking for instead of this if/maybe/then/we/throttle/sometimes/possibly/ifthemoonalignswithsaturn bull****.

Tell us we can do 50GB a day without worry. Or that if we do 50GB on Day 1, we'll be throttled on Day 2 etc.

Set it in stone EXACTLY how the fair use policy applies.

*******

Considering I work for an ISP of sorts myself (in the satellite industry) we have very specific criteria on our All You Can Eat packages where you even get the option to choose how your throttling will be applied.

It can either be on a daily average basis after which it gets throttled down in speed overall (not based on protocol) or you can choose to have full speed for the first 15GB (much lower thresholds in this business of course) and thereafter all of it gets throttled.

Very easy to understand and gives you plenty of choice, there's no reason the ISP's can't do the same.


Which leads me to believe they don't have any automatic systems in place and someone manually monitors their network and then decides on a case per case basis if someone is breaching the AUP or not.
 
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Well i got a 2 meg uncapped from Openweb and only make full use of it after hours which i find is more than i need. How much should a private user really need in a 12 hour period. Surely ones brain can only consume X amount of info per day. I dont even know my stats but am sure i get close to 150 gig a month with my openweb uncapped.
 
Im happy with my 1Mb/s mweb uncapped account and its perfect.

They state that the 1meg uncapped WILL NOT BE THROTTLED, but faster speeds will.
 
I have a 2mb premium AI uncapped account with Mweb. except for the Seacom issue most recently I have always found them satisfactory.
due to Seacom annoyance about a week ago. i signed up a 2mb account with Afrihost to see if it would be better off. although p2p worked better. general web browsing and youtube was not as i had hoped. so back with Mweb i will remain as i still find web browsing and youtube much better. and since Seacom re routed usage till their primary line is fixed.. Mweb for the win then.

So I have tried the rest now i will stick with the best...
average usage 130gb per month since december 2012 and no issues. thanks mweb for being my choice ISP without any BS subtitles
 
Morgisto said:
Well i got a 2 meg uncapped from Openweb and only make full use of it after hours which i find is more than i need. How much should a private user really need in a 12 hour period. Surely ones brain can only consume X amount of info per day. I dont even know my stats but am sure i get close to 150 gig a month with my openweb uncapped.
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I get more than that a month with my 1mb Openweb account. Far, far more. :p

I actually pulled about 24gb over the weekend. Bioshock Infinite on Steam and downloaded SC2 from scratch.
 
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Zewp said:
I get more than that a month with my 1mb Openweb account. Far, far more. :p

I actually pulled about 24gb over the weekend. Bioshock Infinite on Steam and downloaded SC2 from scratch.
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Zewp, how the F#%$ do you pull 24gb over a weekend on 1mbps? :p

what's your monthly stats btw, I also have 1mb GOLD here
 
To be fair, I left the downloads running from Friday morning, went away for the long weekend and they had completed by yesterday evening when I got home, so they ran for closer to 4 days, but it's still pretty impressive that I could download that much.

Here's my usage history for the past few months, although MrBeep has said that this usage tracker is not always reliable so it might not be 100% accurate.

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MWEB 1Mbps Uncapped

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Im happy with my 1Mb/s mweb uncapped account and its perfect.

They state that the 1meg uncapped WILL NOT BE THROTTLED, but faster speeds will.
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You are quite right. I have the same service (MWEB 1Mb/s Uncapped) and I can confirm that the service is unshaped and unthrottled. I download about 140GB - 160GB per month using this service. I normally get 90KBps download speeds regardless of what I download. It does not sound impressive, but it is consistent and therefore gets the job done. I will probably be able to download more if I set my PC up to download 24/7. :)
 
with a 1/2 meg line, assuming 30 days per month, running at max speed 24/7 you can download 158GB/M

with a 1MB line an 'uncapped' package should be the equivalent of a 316gigs package

an uncapped 4MB package should be capable of downloading over a Terabyte every month (1.235TB)


You might think thats incredibly high but it isnt really if you think of it in terms of movies.
At 50GB per blueray a 4MB line "supplies" the equivalent of 25 movies a month. That's less than 1 movie per day at current industry standards. 90 Minutes of entertainment of the quality considered to be default.

You may argue that since a 700Mb movie looks just as good as a blueray, this comparison is unreasonable. But what happens in 2 years when movies are released in full 3D holograms, the first commercial holographic displays are available commercially overseas. Nvidia already has display drivers available for holographic displays available for download. And if old technology is a reasonable comparison standard, why not compare 1.4'' Floppy Drives? There are after all 1000's of completely playable games that fit on those.
 
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