Undersea cable usage question

[Scooby_Doo]

So does anyone know what the current usage of the cables are??? Cuz if they are slightly loaded i guess i understand the port shaping. If not WTF???

 

[biltonguy]

From what i hear Telkom dont use even close to 100% of their share of the bandwidth on the pipe. They shape the service to try stop ppl from using bandwidth intensive protocols like p2p, therefore saving on bandwidth. Every bit of bandwidth on that precious pipe is $$$ to telkom, so they try put as many ppl as they can on as little bandwidth as possible to make the maximum profit from it.

 

[krycor]

we need a nice big fat pipe between za and us direct .. ah i guy can dream..

 

[caroper]

From what i hear Telkom dont use even close to 100% of their share of the bandwidth on the pipe. They shape the service to try stop ppl from using bandwidth intensive protocols like p2p, therefore saving on bandwidth. Every bit of bandwidth on that precious pipe is $$$ to telkom, so they try put as many ppl as they can on as little bandwidth as possible to make the maximum profit from it.

I can't see how letting bandwidth go unused is profitable.
They still have to pay maintainance on the cable so why not use it and keep the customers happy?

I know, this is Telkom, call it a retorical question.

 

[doekvoet]

Something which I am not sure of - maybe someone can enlighten me.

Is Telkom's bandwith usage cost over the undersea cables calculated in terms of data volumes or in terms of pipe capacity? If it is the latter, then that would be a fixed monthly cost to Telkom if the capacity stays the same?

 

[Vox Populi Vox Dei]

Something which I am not sure of - maybe someone can enlighten me.

Is Telkom's bandwith usage cost over the undersea cables calculated in terms of data volumes or in terms of pipe capacity? If it is the latter, then that would be a fixed monthly cost to Telkom if the capacity stays the same?

Well in another thread, somebody said it is the latter. It just shows how much Telkom are ripping us off

BTW, the SAT-3 cable has a capacity of 20Gbits/sec I think.

 

[Hellhound]

Actually the total capacity of the Sat3/SAFE cables is 120gbit/130gbit respectively of which telkom I think own and currently have active 30 gigabits which is being upgraded to 90gigabits by next year end of quarter 4 somewhere. As for being loaded... the current setup telkom has can handle around 1.5million users at a 50:1 contention ratio ... and we are what? 70000? 100000?? does it sound overused right now?

Regards
Hellhound a.k.a Cerberus

 

[Silent_Bob]

its something like 20Gbit/sec or sumthing very close to that, port shaping sucks and is gay

 

[Scooby_Doo]

So it costs telkom the same if we use half or all the bandwidth on the cables. But they still want to shape us? B@stards... I need to win the uk loto and then buy my own cable and sell bandwidth off that to the sa market for cost price of landing data and to maintain it + 5%.

 

[gkm]

So it costs telkom the same if we use half or all the bandwidth on the cables. But they still want to shape us? B@stards.

This is basic economics which one can look up in any economics textbook in the chapter under monopolies. A monopoly (if aiming for a profit) will always produce less that full capacity to increase the scarcity of a product. This artificial scarcity will push up prices and allows the monopoly to make what economists call a monopolistic profit. Monopolies are very bad for an economy, which is why countries have organizations like our competition board to try to prevent them from forming. As we know, Telkom is unfortunately sitting pretty.

 

[daysleeper]

I agree

its something like 20Gbit/sec or sumthing very close to that, port shaping sucks and is gay

Telkom is gay because they are making us pay through our arses!

 

[native]

How much is bandwidth in SA

How much are the 1st tier ISP buying bandwidth for from telkom?

 

[Perdition]

Around R3200 per 64kb per month