Understanding Women

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Stumbled over this just now. A long read, and of course we might not all agree with everything, but he makes some very good points.

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2012/11/understanding-women/

A few extracts from the article:

In fact, it’s really not all that hard once you give up the idea that women are this mysterious “other” and accept that they’re folks, same as you and I, who may have different plumbing and hormonal development but are ultimately working from the same brain templates.

It’s not terribly hard to grasp why men are looking for guidance with regards to women, especially when it comes to sex and relationships; at times, it can feel as though you’re stumbling around in a pitch black room, cluttered with conflicting advice and if you don’t find your way out soon you might be eaten by a grue. When you’re relatively socially inexperienced or even a little on the awkward side of things, you may not have had many opportunities to interact with women on a day-to-day basis. You may find them confusing or contradictory, saying one thing and then apparently doing another. You may end up committing faux-pas without realizing why or how you did it or just end up tripping over your own damn dick.

There’s a reason why the idea of needing a Female-To-English dictionary is a joke so old that it’s practically an antique.

The problem is that, in looking for guidance on understanding women, we often look to sources that are… questionable, at best. It might seem natural to look to evolutionary psychology as a guide; after all, it makes sense to assume that the key to understanding women’s psyches might lie in the evolutionary mechanisms that brought us here in the first place. Unfortunately, more often than not, instead of getting guidance through the rocky roads of interpersonal relationships, we get a number of misleading – if not outright misogynistic – ideas about women. In fact, more often than not, it’s frequently the case that evolutionary psychology is used as the fig-leaf to confirm a pre-existing belief instead.

The first common mistake is assuming that women are some sort of singular entity, an estrogen fueled hive-mind that moves in singular lock-step like a Lady Gaga video directed by Leni Reifenshtahl and guest-starring the Rockettes. Blanket statements – “all women want X”, for whatever arbitrary value of X you care to ascribe – misses not only the point but assumes that all women everywhere share the exact same values.

Even the idea that women only go for the “alpha males” - or more colloquially, *******s – stems from trying to apply evolutionary psychology to what is cultural behavior. We’re apes, apes have alphas who get all the sex, ergo alpha males get all the women, quod erat demonstratum, no? Except… plenty of “betas” are having sex too. Not just amongst humans but amongst apes. Biology is, ultimately, fairly appealing in it’s simplicity; we’re animals following desires we barely understand that are dimly recognized by our hindbrains. Cultural upbringing, on the other hand is subtler to the point of being almost invisible, and more pernicious.

When trying to understand women1, it’s important not to fall prey to trying to ascribe to biology what can be better attributed to culture. In our rush to insist that women don’t approach men because they’re lazy or because they’re reveling in their power as the “chooser” while men are the “supplicant” trying to appease her by proving his genetic superiority, it’s easy to forget that we live in a culture with contradictory rules regarding sex and gender roles; women have had it drilled into their heads for hundreds of years that they are the “submissive” ones and that men are supposed to be the aggressors. As a result, women who flaunt gender roles often end up unnerving or intimidating men who then have to confront their own ingrained lessons regarding the role of the sexes and often react badly.
 
ffs! in the history of MANkind this has never been achieved

Norm (Cheers):" women: can't live with them......pass the beer nuts Woody!"
 
Why do people enjoy pointing out the differences between sexes? Is not right is it? Imagine how wrong a tread like for example "Understanding Blacks" would be. One should not concentrate on the differences but rather on the similarities. Keep in mind, some forumites are women and might get upset. Well, at least one is definitely upset. The title alone says it all. WTF
 
Why do people enjoy pointing out the differences between sexes? Is not right is it? Imagine how wrong a tread like for example "Understanding Blacks" would be. One should not concentrate on the differences but rather on the similarities. Keep in mind, some forumites are women and might get upset. Well, at least one is definitely upset. The title alone says it all. WTF

You a woman or just some guy who got his panties in a twist?
 
I get so angry with gender stereotypes and this stupid cliche thinking about women like they are something so hard to understand etc. I could argue for hours as it's something I feel strongly about. The short of it is that our society its screwed to put it lightly. I'm on my phone but I might make a longer post later.
 
I get so angry with gender stereotypes and this stupid cliche thinking about women like they are something so hard to understand etc. I could argue for hours as it's something I feel strongly about. The short of it is that our society its screwed to put it lightly. I'm on my phone but I might make a longer post later.
Huh? You can't understand your own dreams, and you say you understand women ?


:p
 
I get so angry with gender stereotypes and this stupid cliche thinking about women like they are something so hard to understand etc. I could argue for hours as it's something I feel strongly about. The short of it is that our society its screwed to put it lightly. I'm on my phone but I might make a longer post later.

I agree with you Pooky. It's a tired cliche. i've always understood woman. If you just take the time to understand a person's motivations and perspective they can be understood perfectly, male or female.
 
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You a woman or just some guy who got his panties in a twist?

Does it matter if I am a woman or a man or black or white? You should STOP posting divisive stuff. We are all humans FFS. One would think especially South Africans should know better.
 
Does it matter if I am a woman or a man or black or white? You should STOP posting divisive stuff. We are all humans FFS. One would think especially South Africans should know better.

First off, your use of personal pronouns is a concern.
Secondly, stop being so oversensitive.

...and thirdly, no.
 
Lol you can't understand a creature that doesn't understand itself.
 
Women are like iPhones: You have to touch them all over before they respond.
Men are like Blackberries: Rub one ball and everything moves.
 
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