University graduates

Degrees are overrated but needed and in the end.. they look at your results so you're kinda #%$ed if you screw up. :(

If there is one thing i learnt from the whole thing post varsity then its that people and companies are attracted to shiny objects not functional ones. So if you can go to varsity and pull off 1st's in everything but know how to do nothing you way better off than struggling but being able to do a lot as a result(at varsity and more so at tech being able to do a lot always seemed the right thing.. its not). 2ndly I've learnt how the IT industry works from an employment point of view.. not good, stay clear unless you can pull off results.. don't worry if you have no idea of how to do things or what to do because that's actually not at all important to get in, staying there is easy if you had half a brain and can learn at a decent pace.. this may sounds stupid and it is.. but its also true.

So yah.. and if you fail more than a handful things at university.. don't bother going to work(do the maths or get someone to ;) and you will see it's not worth it). Study further in something else even easy things (its actually easier when you get further up the chain as it becomes a test of you project and time management skills .. if you work where these skills are on display etc you will find further study easy peasy even if the work is something you've never done) to get that shiny badge to show off. Seriously, what you 'can' really do matters very very little in the recruitment process i've seen and where it does. they question basic things that you should know.

It's always who you know or what you have to show off in terms of degrees and academic things. If you want to be someone who can do things, know how everything works etc .. be prepared to be someone's biatch and usually its the ones with the shiny badges :p

If i had to do it again I'd do commerce degrees as those seem way way easier than engineering.

ps. what varsity taught me.. how to swim in the deap end, what life there after taught me.. how to swim with sharks
 
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Degrees are overrated but needed and in the end they look at your results so you're kinda #%$ed if you screw up. ...people and companies are attracted to shiny objects not functional ones. ...you way better off than struggling but being able to do a lot as a result...you will find further study easy peasy even if the work is something you've never done to get that shiny badge to show off. Seriously, what you 'can' really do matters very very little in the recruitment process i've seen and where it does. they question basic things that you should know.

It's always who you know or what you have to show off in terms of degrees and academic things.

Yeah, that.
 
If i had to do it again I'd do commerce degrees as those seem way way easier than engineering.

I don’t know if that’s wise. It seems that there are a number of tiers. There is functional stuff which people are prepared to pay for (Doctors, engineers, plumbers, electricians, etc.) and there is 2nd tier stuff (advertising, commerce, Wall Street analyst, lawyers, etc.). In straitened circumstances, people will pay for those who can DO stuff. Engineers can do stuff. Commerce can’t.
 
University was hell at times; it's definitely not the party everyone makes it out to be. But, it's worth it in the end. I got good job offers for as many interviews as I went to, and I know I could have received offers for any other position I applied for. I pay more tax than what a lot of people earn and I get to work with awesome people and build awesome things.

I'm not trying to blow my own trumpet; just trying to help you realize that if you make the most of your time at university it will pay with interest.
 
If i had to do it again I'd do commerce degrees as those seem way way easier than engineering.
The ones that are "way easier" are also the ones that are way useless.

In straitened circumstances, people will pay for those who can DO stuff. Engineers can do stuff. Commerce can’t.
If you expected the world economy to die within the next 50 years then a BCom is perhaps not a wise move. But then again, can you show me a single engineer who got a billion dollar paycheque?
 
If you expected the world economy to die within the next 50 years then a BCom is perhaps not a wise move. But then again, can you show me a single engineer who got a billion dollar paycheque?

The key here is that engineering skills are transportable. You have it all in your head. It can’t be stolen or lost. It doesn’t depend on the vagaries of the market etc. Oodles of money is overrated IMO. A million will do me fine. A billion brings with it unique baggage & problems.

I feel that at some point, it’s an individuals judgment call. Lot’s and lot’s of money in a high-stress job which you may not like or less money in a job you enjoy. You spend most of your life working, may as well make it as pleasant as possible. Of course, sufficient money is necessary. I tend to be ascetic. Decent transport, decent shelter and so on. I don’t want to own islands or mansions with Olympic sized, indoor, heated swimming pools. Different strokes for different folks.
 
Varsity by itself doesn't guarantee that you'll be good at a job, but it does help with giving you a lot of related knowledge. A quick way to weed out people with very little or no experience is to grab people with degrees and chuck the rest.

While you could learn all those things by yourself, chances are that once you go into a work evironment you'll only use the tools you need for your job and not explore other options as much. This all depends on the person however!

If you teach yourself, you're also more likely to gravitate towards things you like or find interesting.
 
The key here is that engineering skills are transportable. You have it all in your head. It can’t be stolen or lost.
So are most BComs. But I get what you are saying...more "real-world" as a skill. One of the reasons I don't like tax legislation...its all pulled out of thin air with very little sense behind it & differs between countries. ugh

I don’t want to own islands or mansions with Olympic sized, indoor, heated swimming pools.
I wouldn't mind...

Different strokes for different folks.
Yeah.
 
If you expected the world economy to die within the next 50 years then a BCom is perhaps not a wise move. But then again, can you show me a single engineer who got a billion dollar paycheque?

Well, none of those four listed in that article are mere BComms either. A couple are MBAs, and one has a PhD in Mathermatics!
 
Well, none of those four listed in that article are mere BComms either. A couple are MBAs, and one has a PhD in Mathermatics!
haha. Fair enough. How anyone got a hedge fund job with an mba is beyond me though.:confused: MBA skills have zero application to hedge funds.
 
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