Unshapped bandwidth ?

[CaTcH21]

1) Why is it that ISP's dont offer unshapped access with much higher bandwidth ?

2) Why should it be so much more expensive than shaped access ?

3) If the rest of the world dont do this, why do we have to suffer it out in S.A ?

 

[Peter7]

One word......TELKOM

 

[CaTcH21]

One word......TELKOM

I know its those a$$e$ Telkom that prevent this, but i need to know a little bit more into detail. I'm an illiterate DSL newbie, so help me ( and many others ) understand how they do it.

Thanx !

 

[Clipse]

Well at the core routers, they prioritise packets either by port, type or destination ie. local/international..

Atm on shaped adsl accounts the system work partly like this:

1.) packets go via core routers and gets identified as torrent packets(packet shaping) heading internationally, if local skip to step 3.
2.) priority of packet gets changed to super low access priority pool shared among all other torrent "abusers"
3.) Torrent packets get thrown into a different higher priority pool from local bandwidth and thus doesnt crawl at the speed of international torrents.


This is a pretty decent explanation, Im sorry I cant split the packets up in binary code for you.

PS. its Unshaped/Shaped, not Unshapped

 

[gkm]

1) Why is it that ISP's dont offer unshapped access with much higher bandwidth ?

A couple of ISP's started doing that, but Telkom jumped on them very quickly. Telkom seems willing to turn a blind eye on the larger shaped accounts for a while, but not for the unshaped ones.

2) Why should it be so much more expensive than shaped access ?

Unshaped accounts compete with diginet and ISDN to some extent, which are big cash cows for Telkom. One can therefore only assume the higher prices are to protect the revenue from these services.

The difference is a lot smaller these days. In the beginning an unshaped account was nearly four times (R8xx I think) as much as a shaped one.

 

[CaTcH21]

Thanks for this info guys, appreciated !