US Election 2020 - Pt 3

Who do you think WILL win the 2020 US presidential election

  • Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D)

    Votes: 166 44.4%

  • Donald J. Trump (R)

    Votes: 208 55.6%
  • Total voters
    374
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ghoti said:
Im just looking for examples of AOC being "radical". I want to understand your version of "radical" in the spectrum of "radicalness"
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You don't think AOC is radical? :ROFL:

Then again, you think of yourself as centre-left despite your professed support for Bernie & a few months ago, saying Biden would lose the election because he wasn't left-wing enough. OK.

Edit: She even describes herself as a radical: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ocasio-cortez-aoc-60-minutes-democratic-party
 
ghoti said:
Im just looking for examples of AOC being "radical". I want to understand your version of "radical" in the spectrum of "radicalness"
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AOC wants to abolish capitalism, and believes they are "marching towards progress on the issue". And don't see her as radical.

At least own your political leaning.
 
Chris_the_Brit said:
You don't think AOC is radical? :ROFL:
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Examples of AOC radicalization please. The terms "left" and "radical" have lost almost all meaning with folks so I need examples of what "radical" is in your world. Is universal healthcare... radical to you?
 
ghoti said:
Corruption. If you read the page I linked to you, you would know that welfare states are complex to manage correctly. If managed incorrectly it doesnt work. As with almost anything.



Too far left, too much authoritarian (strong man) government, not enough democracy, not enough free markets.
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authoritarian and communism / socialism are going hand in hand.
 
ghoti said:
Jy praat kak
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Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria (July 13, 2018). "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez" (Interview). Interviewed by Margaret Hoover. PBS.
Go check it out. She hopes to establish democratic socialism.

An apology afterward would be nice.
 
ghoti said:
Why dont you link it. Or quote her? I want to know where she said she would abolish all capitalism.
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Go check the full interview - you are a skilled person I'm sure you can find it. Then you can't blame me for pulling words out of context. She's very clear about the issue.

And then, of course, you can apologize for being a bit of a duck out of ignorance.
 
ghoti said:
Corruption. If you read the page I linked to you, you would know that welfare states are complex to manage correctly. If managed incorrectly it doesnt work. As with almost anything.
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So it only works when people "elect" non corrupt politicians. But when it doesn't work, as you said it does because of corruption, you are f__ked because there is nothing you can do.
This is what we call a fragile system.

Now lets contrast this with an anti-fragile system, like free market economies. You see, if private enterprises are badly managed, they will cease to exist because they cannot force other people to pay for them.


ghoti said:
Too far left, too much authoritarian (strong man) government, not enough democracy, not enough free markets.
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So what is the limit of being too far left then?
Just about every left wing government that was "authoritarian", anti-democratic and market killing was supported by every single progressive on this forum when they did it because of the Wuhan virus.
 
ghoti said:
Protecting the environment to try offset climate change is radical? WOW. Talk about a word losing all sense of meaning.
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She's doing more harm to the cause with her idiot blathering about topics she has no clue about.
Heck she barely understands economics despite a supposed degree in it.
 
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