US Election 2020 - Pt 3

[Brenden_E]

Crazy system where you can win the most votes but still lose the election.

Furthermore, even if you win these states the chosen electors don't really have to vote for you at the Electoral College meeting. Crazy system.

Faithless elector - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Smaller states would never join the union otherwise. They would never have any say, ever.
So not that crazy system when you think about the big picture.

 

[2026]

I'd say it's not easy at all. You'd need a coordinated effort - someone with access to alter polling station records, someone who can alter the audit trails of box movements, someone who can sneak the box into the counting center, etc. So, if it's difficult, they're smart and organised to get it right - and if they're smart and organised, why do it in such an obvious way?

"Ok, we did all the sneaky... now the last part of the plan. Make is so obvious such that if we are ever caught, we can use the solid unbeatable 'no-one would make it this obvious so it's not us' defense"

You fell for it hook line and sinker!

#sneakydems

 

[Brenden_E]

Nope, I don't.

Elaborate. Cause you're saying the more difficult something becomes the less likely you make a mistake. That has not been my experience in anything, ever.

 

[konfab]

Really enjoy seeing when Trumpfolk feel "whistleblowers" and "sources" are the greatest thing ever, or the worst.

Except if they are Julian Assange who leaked Hillary's emails.

Bit of a strawman you got there m8.

 

[2026]

Still to count are mail ballots received on Election Day and ballots received in the next week.

Wow, so we might be waiting on this count to actually know the winner for sure...

I'd better by more popcorn.

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Judith Miller: Trump vs. Biden – the saddest, most outrageous moment of the president's 2020 campaign​

fox news hacked by BLM?

Judith Miller: Trump vs. Biden – the saddest, most outrageous moment of the president's 2020 campaign

Trump declined the opportunity to toot his own political horn early on Wednesday morning. Instead, he falsely declared an election victory that he had not yet achieved

www.foxnews.com

 

[greg0205]

Except if they are Julian Assange who leaked Hillary's emails.

Bit of a strawman you got there m8.

Hillary's emails?!

Tell me more.

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Wait until they find missing ballots hidden on Hunters laptop...

@Brenden_E - did you explore this angle yet?

 

[konfab]

Hillary's emails?!

Tell me more.

My bad, it was DNC emails I think.

Point was that Julain Assange quickly dropped from being the blue-eyed poster child of progressives once he exposed corruption in the DNC.

 

[Temujin]

They do have legitimate reasons:

Michigan:


What that suggests is that their observers were not present when certain votes were counted. What apparently happened, is that everyone was told that counting would stop, so everyone went home, then counting continued. If they can prove that ballots were opened and counted without observers, they need to actually re-do the election. Not just recount as the chain of trust for ballots would have been broken.

In Georgia:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...p-michigan-vote-count-temporarily/6164647002/

Pennsylvania is just a shyte show, so I am not even going to bother listing everything that is going wrong there.

That detroit situation is turning into a fark up after they wouldn't let Rs in, and blocking up windows so they couldn't see in, and counting 'stopped' for 'reasons' followed with cooler boxes arriving in middle of night and 138k votes suddenly added to biden and 0 to anyone else when no counting was supposed to be happening, followed by biden taking it by 135k.... even if given everything is above board, system error at 4am etc, just by blocking the watchers and boarding up windows they've created a mess for themselves

 

[Brenden_E]

 

[cerebus]

That detroit situation is turning into a fark up after they wouldn't let Rs in, and blocking up windows so they couldn't see in, and counting 'stopped' for 'reasons' followed with cooler boxes arriving in middle of night and 138k votes suddenly added to biden and 0 to anyone else when no counting was supposed to be happening, followed by biden taking it by 135k.... even if given everything is above board, just by blocking the watchers and boarding up windows they've created a mess for themselves

https://twitter.com/x/status/1321880450525179904

 

[buka001]

A near-vertical line like that is exceptionally unlikely. Do you notice how after that, even with the rest of the so-called mail-in ballets it doesn't behave the same? That straight line up is 100% Biden votes being dumped.

Never done Mathematics have we?

 

[/dev/null]

Smaller states would never join the union otherwise. They would never have any say, ever.
So not that crazy system when you think about the big picture.

Basically, a system to protect the minority.

 

[obsidian86]

Thanks Mccain

 

[Brenden_E]

Basically, a system to protect the minority.

Look I agree it's not ideal and it's a compromise, but it's the best system to give everyone a voice. The bigger states do still have a bigger voice. California has 55 and Wyoming something like 3?

 

[Nom Chompsky]

PHOENIX — More than 150 supporters of President Trump, some of them armed, gathered outside the Maricopa County election office on Wednesday and chanted “Count the vote,” as officials did just that under the protection of sheriff’s deputies.

Early results in Arizona show Joseph R. Biden Jr. in the lead, but Trump supporters believe that could change as the last votes are counted.

Keely Varvel, chief deputy recorder for Maricopa County, said counting would continue despite the protest. “We are still planning to finish up our scheduled ballot processing work and report out more results tonight,” Ms. Varvel said.

Without citing evidence, some Republicans have accused election officials of manipulating the results to indicate that Mr. Trump is losing in Maricopa County, which is home to about 60 percent of Arizona’s population.

“The only way Biden can win Arizona is through fraud,” said Jim Williams, 67, a welder who attended the protest. “I won’t accept a Biden victory. I don’t want to live under Communist rule.”

Many in the crowd were holding Trump flags, and numerous people were wielding AR-15 rifles and other firearms. Some also chanted “Fox News sucks,” reflecting their displeasure with the network’s decision on Tuesday to call Arizona for Mr. Biden, a move that some other news outlets later followed.

But...that's what they are doing?

 

[boramk]

Look I agree it's not ideal and it's a compromise, but it's the best system to give everyone a voice. The bigger states do still have a bigger voice. California has 55 and Wyoming something like 3?

California also has 2 senators and Wyoming has 2. America isn't a conservative country but the conservatives have the most power. Doesn't sound too fair to me.


Especially when you consider the whole reason why this even exists is because the southern states just wanted to not be overpowered by more populated northern states so they counted their black slaves as 3/5 of a man to add to their EC vote.

 

[Vrotappel]

Basically, a system to protect the minority.

Yes because majorities don't require protection.

In SA we have the opposite. Everything is rigged to protect blacks against whites although whites is a minority that accounts to less than 10% of the population.

 

[Brenden_E]

California also has 2 senators and Wyoming has 2. America isn't a conservative country but the conservatives have the most power. Doesn't sound too fair to me.


Especially when you consider the whole reason why this even exists is because the southern states just wanted to not be overpowered by more populated northern states so they counted their black slaves as 3/5 of a man to add to their EC vote.

Without compromise, there would be no USA. Perhaps as an American that's a lesson you should take forward.