Using other ISP capped data on Telkom FTTH

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I have a Telkom FTTH line with included data from Telkom. This data will run out before the end of this month. Can I buy capped ADSL data from Afrihost/Axxess/Webafrica to use on the fibre line?

I tried testing it with the trial accounts but for some reason none of them worked. All I changed was the account details.
 
Hi RH

This is my understanding but i stand to be corrected , if you have fibre from Telkom and get data from Telkom you can only top up from Telkom .

With regard to Afrihost they offer data bundles and uncapped services on BoltSpeed lines which is a Telkom connection , so the question is can you downgrade a telkom service with data to just a BoltSpeed line and add data from ISP's like Afrihost ect.
 
RH360 said:
I have a Telkom FTTH line with included data from Telkom. This data will run out before the end of this month. Can I buy capped ADSL data from Afrihost/Axxess/Webafrica to use on the fibre line?

I tried testing it with the trial accounts but for some reason none of them worked. All I changed was the account details.
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You should be able to do this just fine. A fibre line isn't locked to a data account, it's like any other ADSL line and runs over the same network as ADSL.

What happens when you try use it?
What router are you using? The router might be network-locked.
 
stroebs said:
You should be able to do this just fine. A fibre line isn't locked to a data account, it's like any other ADSL line and runs over the same network as ADSL.

What happens when you try use it?
What router are you using? The router might be network-locked.
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Are you saying then that effectively if you had a ADSL account with one of the ISP's like axxess then it would work on a FTTH fibre connection?
 
stroebs said:
You should be able to do this just fine. A fibre line isn't locked to a data account, it's like any other ADSL line and runs over the same network as ADSL.

What happens when you try use it?
What router are you using? The router might be network-locked.
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Got it working thanks. Using a Mikrotik, but forgot to change the masquerade rule on the firewall to include all pppoe connections. I created a duplicate pppoe connection.
 
RH360 said:
I have a Telkom FTTH line with included data from Telkom. This data will run out before the end of this month. Can I buy capped ADSL data from Afrihost/Axxess/Webafrica to use on the fibre line?

I tried testing it with the trial accounts but for some reason none of them worked. All I changed was the account details.
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Before moving house and getting my current VDSL connection, I had 100Mbps Telkom FTTH. I can assure you that absolutely any DSL/fibre capped account works on Telkom fibre. I had an Afrihost data account and later a Crystal Web one.

The real question is why you're getting your data from Telkom. The value for money is awful compared to most other ISPs.

paulcolmer said:
Hi RH

This is my understanding but i stand to be corrected , if you have fibre from Telkom and get data from Telkom you can only top up from Telkom .

With regard to Afrihost they offer data bundles and uncapped services on BoltSpeed lines which is a Telkom connection , so the question is can you downgrade a telkom service with data to just a BoltSpeed line and add data from ISP's like Afrihost ect.
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You can obviously only top-up a particular data account with more data from the providing ISP, but you can use an alternate account from anyone. Which is far more preferable and cheaper than topping up.
 
David said:
Are you saying then that effectively if you had a ADSL account with one of the ISP's like axxess then it would work on a FTTH fibre connection?
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Exactly that yes.

I have FTTH line + 10GB through ISPAfrika but I've never used the account. I use a 300GB+300GB (Afrihost Plus+) account on my FTTH and it works like a bomb.
 
David said:
Are you saying then that effectively if you had a ADSL account with one of the ISP's like axxess then it would work on a FTTH fibre connection?
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Only on Telkom fibre as they use IPC for their Fibre.
 
And I assume you get some type of FTTH router from Telkom, that you can acces just like a ADSL router and simply change PPOE accounts as required.
 
David said:
And I assume you get some type of FTTH router from Telkom, that you can acces just like a ADSL router and simply change PPOE accounts as required.
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Not quite. They give you a router which converts the physical fibre into RJ-45 for you to plug your chosen WAN router into, which will handle the PPPoE dialling.

Note that only a router with WAN capability over a RJ-45 port will work, ADSL/VDSL routers usually don't support this.
 
stroebs said:
Not quite. They give you a router which converts the physical fibre into RJ-45 for you to plug your chosen WAN router into, which will handle the PPPoE dialling.

Note that only a router with WAN capability over a RJ-45 port will work, ADSL/VDSL routers usually don't support this.
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Ok So something like a Billion 7300 or any Billion for that matter with a WAN port should work. Most of the Billion routers I have come across can be setup to use one of the ethernet ports as a WAN port?

So if you get FFTH from Telkom, then you have to get a WAN router?
 
Telkom fibre requires the installation of a ONT unit which terminates the fibre, and provides a connection point for your own router or theirs if you are going for Telkom ISP fibre plans.

Huawei appears to be Telkom's equipment provider for the ONT and the routers. Telkom's website does not indicate anything specific about the specs for the router.

They do provide details about the Huawei Router they supply. See this link.
 
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Ok starting to make sense now. I wonder if this is the same for the other "FTTH" networks like Vumatel and Fiberhoods?
 
David said:
Ok starting to make sense now. I wonder if this is the same for the other "FTTH" networks like Vumatel and Fiberhoods?
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Yes it is. There is no guarantee of interoperability between manufacturers of FTTH equipment yet, despite FTTH equipment generally being standards compliant. Each fibre supplier has chosen a different manufacturer. Vumatel has apparently chosen AON as its FTTH technology whilst most of the others are using GPON technologies.

In theory, any router should work when plugged in to the ONT.
 
daniellgr said:
Yes it is. There is no guarantee of interoperability between manufacturers of FTTH equipment yet, despite FTTH equipment generally being standards compliant. Each fibre supplier has chosen a different manufacturer. Vumatel has apparently chosen AON as its FTTH technology whilst most of the others are using GPON technologies.

In theory, any router should work when plugged in to the ONT.
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In theory, yes.

This is however not the cast when dealing with non-GPON networks.
 
daniellgr said:
Yes it is. There is no guarantee of interoperability between manufacturers of FTTH equipment yet, despite FTTH equipment generally being standards compliant. Each fibre supplier has chosen a different manufacturer. Vumatel has apparently chosen AON as its FTTH technology whilst most of the others are using GPON technologies.

In theory, any router should work when plugged in to the ONT.
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So "in Theory" the ONT is like the equivalent of the old Telkom NTU that you used to get on ISDN and then you simply plugged in your own ISDN modem and off you go?
 
Basically, yes.

Did you look at the link to the thread started by MickeyD, where the link then compares AON with PON technologies?

All of these are fundamentally the same. You need a device of some sort to terminate the fibre on. IF that termination reaches a level of maturity and complies fully with a standard, then the interface could be built into any other device such as a router. Until then, a device currently referred to as the ONT is required.

GE, Metro Ethernet, AON, GPON, GEPON and whatever else is out there sticks to the same basic design.

GE and Metro Ethernet mostly uses 2 fibre cores, one for each direction, whereas, AON and GPON are mostly single core designs where both directions are handled on the same fibre core.
 
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