Using your own router with Vumatel

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Hi,

About to get Vumatel in Tamboerskloof, but I have been unable to get a straight answer from Vuma. I want to use my own router (running open-wrt with custom VPN routing, etc), and want my public IP to be assigned to my router and not some other CPE. Is this easy to do with Vuma? How would the "WAN" connection look to my router?

Thanks
Neilen
 
Yes.
The wan connection is an ethernet connection into their CPE which is just an 8 port switch with an SFP.
You just set your wan port to be a DHCP client, and route out that port. It will obtain your public IP address.
 
Sinbad:

Thanks, that's all I wanted to hear :)

Cheers
Neilen
 
brick said:
Hi,

About to get Vumatel in Tamboerskloof, but I have been unable to get a straight answer from Vuma. I want to use my own router (running open-wrt with custom VPN routing, etc), and want my public IP to be assigned to my router and not some other CPE. Is this easy to do with Vuma? How would the "WAN" connection look to my router?

Thanks
Neilen
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Hi Neilen,

First prize would be if your provider gives you the PPPoE connection details to dial directly from your own router through their gateway/CPE.

If that isn't an option for whatever reason, ask them to put your router's local WAN IP into their CPE's DMZ. That will allow incoming connections to pass transparently through their CPE to your own router.
Using our DrayTek routers, that local WAN IP for the DMZ is found on the dashboard under IPv4 Internet Access>WAN1/2.

Shout if I can help further.
 
MrDraytek said:
First prize would be if your provider gives you the PPPoE connection details to dial directly from your own router through their gateway/CPE.
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The Vumatel network does not work with PPPOE. It is a purely ethernet based architecture, with VLAN's being provisioned to create the customer to ISP connection.

To come back to the OP's question; as Sinbad has mentioned, it is entirely possible. The ISP uses the MAC Address of the WAN router to assign an IP address, and the OP can then create a VPN etc from the WAN router.
 
sydCPT said:
The Vumatel network does not work with PPPOE. It is a purely ethernet based architecture, with VLAN's being provisioned to create the customer to ISP connection.
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Can someone confirm if this is the case?

I am currently with SADV through Home Connect and they gave me PPPOE details so I am using my own Unifi Hardware.

I am now moving to a new place which sadly is covered by Vumatel and I would still like PPPOE access, I do not trust an ISP to handle my router.
 
Thor said:
Can someone confirm if this is the case?

I am currently with SADV through Home Connect and they gave me PPPOE details so I am using my own Unifi Hardware.

I am now moving to a new place which sadly is covered by Vumatel and I would still like PPPOE access, I do not trust an ISP to handle my router.
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The ISP doesn't handle your router just because it's not PPPOE.
My router is managed by me... Has been since day 1
 
Sinbad said:
The ISP doesn't handle your router just because it's not PPPOE.
My router is managed by me... Has been since day 1
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Can you log into your router see the PPPOE credentials and load that into a different router?
 
Thor said:
Can you log into your router see the PPPOE credentials and load that into a different router?
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There's no PPPOE!

I'm using my own USG. It uses DHCP to get an IP address from the ISP directly over ethernet. There's no credentials. It's all done by vlans.
 
Sinbad said:
There's no PPPOE!

I'm using my own USG. It uses DHCP to get an IP address from the ISP directly over ethernet. There's no credentials. It's all done by vlans.
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Urgh, so how do I link say a Mikrotik or any other router for that matter to Vuma, what information do they need from me?

Surely they can't just have it DHCP without control, I am assuming you get a static IP address?
 
Thor said:
Urgh, so how do I link say a Mikrotik or any other router for that matter to Vuma, what information do they need from me?

Surely they can't just have it DHCP without control, I am assuming you get a static IP address?
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You plug your mikrotik's wan port into the CPE with an ethernet cable, and you set it to get its address via DHCP. That's all there is to it.
There is control. Your CPE in on a specific vlan dedicated to your ISP. The central DHCP server on that VLAN dishes out your IP address. It's not static in the true meaning of the word, but it rarely if ever changes.

Be aware that the first device that requests an IP on your line will then be bound on the DHCP server, and if you change devices/mac addresses, you will need to ask your ISP to release the binding. Subsequent devices will not get an address unless you do this.
 
Sinbad said:
You plug your mikrotik's wan port into the CPE with an ethernet cable, and you set it to get its address via DHCP. That's all there is to it.
There is control. Your CPE in on a specific vlan dedicated to your ISP. The central DHCP server on that VLAN dishes out your IP address. It's not static in the true meaning of the word, but it rarely if ever changes.

Be aware that the first device that requests an IP on your line will then be bound on the DHCP server, and if you change devices/mac addresses, you will need to ask your ISP to release the binding. Subsequent devices will not get an address unless you do this.
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Okay so that makes sense to me then, so its mac auth.

How do they tie in the billing, IE what if I go to a Vumatel house and spoof mac addresses until I get a hit?
 
Thor said:
Okay so that makes sense to me then, so its mac auth.

How do they tie in the billing, IE what if I go to a Vumatel house and spoof mac addresses until I get a hit?
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what billing?
Spoof on what interface? You mean plug into the ONT?
 
Depends which vumatel afaik,if its trenched its DHCP
Aerial uses PPPoE
Vuma Trenched:
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