USN Fastgrow Anabolic

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Hi guys, I am on a pretty easy going weight lifting routine (in my flat with dumbells)
Has anyone had any experience with USN Fastgrow Anabolic for gaining muscle?

I know USN has a notoriously bad name (well seems to in forums). Should I keep taking it or chuck it down the sink?

I am trying to lose weight and gain muscle simulataneously im probably at about 19% body fat, I have a great 2 pack and then love handles, feels bad man.

Any assist would be appreciated.

PS dont want advice RE: Cardio, more supplement/diet orientated
 
At 19% body fat you shouldn't have love handles. Normal body fat ratio for a man is 23%+ as far as I know. No comment on the USN product though. You may want to look at Beta Ecdysterone?
 
Really :/ maybe my calculations were wrong, im not talking huge ones here, but enough fat to cover my lower 4 abs and stick out slightly at the sides, I think normal for men at my age (24) is about 17%- but thanks for suggestion :)
 
USN Fastgrow anabolic is like the rest, not bad, but dont forget... you are not going to ever bulk on muscle without putting on fat... it's not easy to do. Having said that, dont let the word anabolic fool you, it's not roids and it's not going to take you outside your body's capabilities...

If you are trying to lose fat and gain muscle, go for a very low carb, high protein suppliment and combine it with creatine for recovery. Don't neglect your carbs, but you can at least control them easier than the protein. USN's IGF9 pure protein or Evox' synergy whey are great for sustained release and losing fat.

Just don't fall into the trap that low carbs means no fat. 1) You need carbs to lose fat and have energy to workout. 2) Protein carries KJ's just like carbs do... i.e. dont think that ADDING protein to your already overloaded diet will help. Just balance it well.

So... my advice? Switch to a giant set routine (HIIT is awesome for losing fat and gaining strength / muscle with less time in the gym). Also, don't shy away from less targeted routines (including front squats, pull-ups, etc) that cover more than one muscle group... more bang for your minute!
 
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Fast grow is for skinny dudes trying to bulk up, not lose weight, first lose your weight then start training. Use a whey protein.
And dont try and do both lose weight and gain muscle together.
 
Worried about not getting enough protein- my diet is relatively good but might lack some nutrition :P, also don't want to look like a bean pole when I do lose the weight hence hitting the weights.
 
try purus labs... e-pol.. just remember, stack up on those carbs or u'll c nuthin
also, remember liver protector, loads of water and the usually pct

great results imo
 
try purus labs... e-pol.. just remember, stack up on those carbs or u'll c nuthin
also, remember liver protector, loads of water and the usually pct

great results imo

He wants to cut IMO not bulk
 
Since this topic is up, I was wondering what would happen if you start taking something like this regularly but don't get a lot of exercise (like hitting the gym 3-4 times per week)? For example, I'm about 5 foot 5 (I think) and only weigh about 55 Kgs. My exercise generally involves me walking to the station, and then from the station to work. I also walk about 5 km's per day on weekends. The most I have ever weighed was 62 Kgs, and that was when I was doing weights every day, for about 45 minutes over 3 to 4 months. I never "bulked out", but I got this kind of lean, hard muscle (best way I can describe it).

My diet is pretty decent. I eat sugar free Muesli every day for breakfast, try to get something with eggs in it for lunch, and have something with chicken for supper. I do tend to snack badly between meals (things like chips and a coke) but this isn't every day, just the days I forget to pack fruit or nuts.

Another thing is I'm Indian, and I know Indian dudes tend to be either skinny or fat, or if they gym a lot, well built upper bodies with skinny legs :P

I would actually just like to put on a little bit of weight, so that I look a little less like a twig.
 
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you would just mess up your system. lol
Probably have some water retention, lots of headaches, probably small anxiety attacks, irregular & irritating heartbeat... Good luck ;)

I've taken close to every so called 'GREAT' OTC product when it comes to sports nutrition... and i can honestly say.. they add/work 5% to the complete picture.

If you wanna get big: eat loads (5 to 6 times for day, CLEAN), drink loads of water (stay clear of alcohol, especially on the more potent products),
sleep loads (gabba does wonders for this 1), take your fish oils, BCAA's, vit B12's & take another multivitamin complex daily. nitrixO will pump you up in long term, but fades every 12 to 24hrs if not taken daily and/or as stipulated by the product. complex/pro-gain protein is a must (must be good quality if you wanting to build muscle that will actually keep & be healthy) Exercise 5x per week, 2 days cardio @ 20 to 35 minutes depending on threshold and if you knees don't give in - make sure your heartbeat is @ right level! (morning cardio is best fyi, depends on the person tho). Keep exercises to heavy lifting instead of lighter and more. never same muscle group day after one another, give 24 to 48hr breaks between muscle groups. if cell recovery taken, consider 24hrs minimum break (depends on person again, every1 is different).. but you will not gain if muscle is not rested

If you wanna get shredded: for starters, IMO bulk prior to cutting for best effect (bulking above), eat clean: 4 to 5 times per day. some great products out there to help cut, purus labs (slinshot / halovar) ftw if you wanna stay legal, altho still quite harmful to the liver and kidneys, possibility of some gyno if not treated with a good OTC pct.
Drink loads of grape juice (freshest brand you can find), proven to keep kidney function working tops. some saw palmetto is a bonus.
Same vitamin blah blah above apply to this + sleep pattern. Exercise up to 5 times per week, and fit in 4 days of cardio spread out, between 30 to 45 minutes of hard cardio.

Alot of the products to be taken can cause various different results.. If any1 wants some advice on the who's & what's, pm me
 
in addition @zolly

hormones are released when exercising, the products 1 take only bind with the hormones released... they flush out your system eventually because there is nothing to grasp..

As for your walks = no effect, you need to lift HEAVY to get those hormones running around into a buzzing frenzy
 
Since this topic is up, I was wondering what would happen if you start taking something like this regularly but don't get a lot of exercise (like hitting the gym 3-4 times per week)? For example, I'm about 5 foot 5 (I think) and only weigh about 55 Kgs. My exercise generally involves me walking to the station, and then from the station to work. I also walk about 5 km's per day on weekends. The most I have ever weighed was 62 Kgs, and that was when I was doing weights every day, for about 45 minutes over 3 to 4 months. I never "bulked out", but I got this kind of lean, hard muscle (best way I can describe it).

My diet is pretty decent. I eat sugar free Muesli every day for breakfast, try to get something with eggs in it for lunch, and have something with chicken for supper. I do tend to snack badly between meals (things like chips and a coke) but this isn't every day, just the days I forget to pack fruit or nuts.

Another thing is I'm Indian, and I know Indian dudes tend to be either skinny or fat, or if they gym a lot, well built upper bodies with skinny legs :P

I would actually just like to put on a little bit of weight, so that I look a little less like a twig.

3-4 times a week is ideal if you do it properly in those times. By do it properly, i'm talking quality, not quantity. High intensity, giant sets, complex movements. It's the easiest way to get a double whammy for your time. Your body comsumes energy in recovery!

Zolly, seriously, you are not going to bulk if you gym every day, unless you carefully plan your routine and eat like a horse. Don't do it if you're not that type of body.
One day rest after one good workout - your body builds muscle at rest NOT in the gym... you use the gym to break down muscle. Recovery means good sleep... seriously! Without good sleep you won't build muscle. Google all of this, it's out there.

And again, make your gym session count. 45 minutes is ideal. Don't do everything, target certain areas in a session... biceps+triceps one day, Chest + lats another, abs + lower back another and legs on their own (big group). You don't have to finish the cycle in one week. 4 times a week is ample, 3 is OK too. GIVE YOUR BODY TIME TO RECOVER AND TRAIN WITH HIGH INTENSITY.

Giant sets... they work VERY well. So do dropsets. High intensity sessions involve three sets of three similar exersices one after another. You'll end up pushing tiny weights on your last but you will make them work for you.
Aim for 15-6 reps with your last rep being to failure.

e.g. I do:
15 dips, 12 dumbell press, 12 flyes
2 min rest
10 dips, 10 press, 10 flyes
2 min rest
8 dips, 8 press, 8 flyes
2 min rest
6 dips, 6 press, 6 flyes

Thats chest done...
Then..

15 wide overhand lat pull-down, 15 close underhand lat pulldown, 12 rows
2 min rest
12 wide pd, 12 close underh pd, 10 rows
2 min rest
8 wide pd, 8 close, 8 rows
2 min rest
6 wide pd, 6 close, 6 rows

Don't be intimidated by giant sets - you can do more than you think... and train to failure, don't stress about the count as much... but if you fail at number 4 cos you went too heavy, just do a dropset (lower the weight and continue till you have done around 10 or so).

This is a short session that incorporates awesome muscle pump and cardio in one and makes your body work on rest days too (for recovery). MORE BANG FOR YOUR TIME.
 
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At 19% body fat you shouldn't have love handles. Normal body fat ratio for a man is 23%+ as far as I know. No comment on the USN product though. You may want to look at Beta Ecdysterone?

This can't be right :confused:

I'm not fat at all, my 6 pack is just under a small layer of fat. Body fat % below 10 will show my 6 pack. I would have to check again haven't in a long time but mine is only about 12% and I have no love muscles I'm pretty lean tbh. If normal for a man is 23% ... :eek:
 
Sorry for the temporary derail, but thanks for the feedback guys. Hopefully if things work out for me next year I'll have more time and will be able to get back to the gym.
 
I question those percentages... you go from average to obese?
 
Wiki's definition. According to Discovery Health, normal ends at 24.9 for men. Will look for a more reliable comparison.
 
It's possible fit should be normal, average should be overweight and Obese stay where it is... perhaps it's just semantics.
 
Hi guys, I am on a pretty easy going weight lifting routine (in my flat with dumbells)
Has anyone had any experience with USN Fastgrow Anabolic for gaining muscle?

I've got a friend in the pharmaceutical industry and rep's for weider. He says he has personally tried the Fastgrow anabolic and says it doesn't work at all and, maybe since he reps for the opposition, but says USN is the worst product you could buy.

He recommends using a product called Muscle Builder and to stay away from hi-carb supplements if you want to lose weight.

I can pm you his email if you would like to contact him.
 
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