Vavi: Mines, apartheid created killers

[BigAl-sa]

"Meanwhile, their racist bosses made their fortunes, exploiting our mineral wealth and cheap labour, creating huge international monopolies like Anglo-American and DeBeers, which are still exploiting us today...

"This cruel and immoral system was ruthlessly imposed through violence."

Vavi said colonialism and apartheid caused the current social problems, including the high unemployment figures.

http://www.fin24.com/Economy/Vavi-SA-faces-massive-crisis-20110504

 

[McSack]

Never mind that the mines and employment (the reason unions exist in the first place) would not have come about if not for the so called "international monopolies like Anglo-American and DeBeers"

"This cruel and immoral system was ruthlessly imposed through violence."

that's life chop... an unskilled, uneducated workforce is always going to be taken advantage of ... in fact IMO unions take advantage of the very same system

 

[Mbuzi]

Can for a second people stop blaming apartheid and come up with solutions? I am tired of the ANC/SACP/COSATU always playing the race card when things are not well in the republic.

 

[OMB]

Can for a second people stop blaming apartheid and come up with solutions? I am tired of the ANC/SACP/COSATU always playing the race card when things are not well in the republic.

Isn't going to happen until the ANC/SACP/COSATU alliance starts taking responsibility and admits to their own failures, and I don't see that happening in the foreseeable future.

 

[grok]

Yeah, and Malema created a full-blown racist in me yet you don't see me going around killing & raping do you?
Blacks should stop blaming every external factor for their own internal barbaric behaviour.

 

[Fudzy]

I agree that it's a bit pointless blaming things on the past but given that SA has a much bigger crime problem than our neighbours it does hold some merit to the cause.

 

[dlk001]

Isn't going to happen until the ANC/SACP/COSATU alliance starts taking responsibility and admits to their own failures, and I don't see that happening in the foreseeable future.

and also isn't going to happen until most South Africans (black and white) start taking responsibility, admit to their own mistakes and stop pointing fingers at others.

"None of us can ever excuse such acts of barbarism, but I believe we do have to try to explain how such atrocities can happen. Because Thozamile Taki was not unique. There have been others in our recent past found guilty of similarly despicable acts," said Vavi.

This is a lot of nonsense!!!

 

[McSack]

and in other hysterical news...

Cosatu Secretary-General Zwelinzima Vavi on Wednesday said that colonialism, apartheid and international mining houses are responsible for serial killers.

Vavi said while other countries have produced gruesome lists of killers, South Africa’s history has created conditions conducive to a greater number of serial rapists and murderers.

He said the problem is rooted in the country’s colonial and apartheid history blah blah blah ....

Yeah ... never mind that Shakka et al were a bunch of bloodthirsty megalomaniacs

 

[McSack]

What does he mean with "our mineral wealth"?

Were his [-]comrades[/-]ancestors already mining gold and diamonds when the settler got here?

And "cheap labour" came mostly from Europe.

His ancestors were settlers themselves ... and no ... no one was mining before the evil europeans arrived

 

[Flanders]

...SA has a much bigger crime problem than our neighbours it does hold some merit to the cause.

That's largely because of lack of consequence for criminals and our porous borders where any African Tom, Dick or Harry is concerned. The fact that our country is a shining beacon of opportunity on this continent (for those both on the right and wrong side of the law) is also largely due to the aforementioned dirty word - 'colonialism'.

 

[manesan]

Yeah, and Malema created a full-blown racist in me yet you don't see me going around killing & raping do you?
Blacks should stop blaming every external factor for their own internal barbaric behaviour.

So its Malema's fault you are racist....riiight.

 

[grok]

If they can play that game then I sure as hell can too.

 

[LazyLion]

If these people had not brought mining to South Africa these people would not have had ANY jobs for the last 130 years.

In fact without the mining sector, Cosatu would probably not exist either.

 

[R13...]

If these people had not brought mining to South Africa these people would not have had ANY jobs for the last 130 years.

In fact without the mining sector, Cosatu would probably not exist either.

Maybe not, but that doesn't excuse the Europeans arriving here, digging up the minerals and shipping them off to Europe to profit & build their own countries.

 

[LazyLion]

Maybe not, but that doesn't excuse the Europeans arriving here, digging up the minerals and shipping them off to Europe to profit & build their own countries.

Ja, no... that is a dang shame... and they underpaid us for decades on the value of that Gold and diamonds.

BUT, without it the world would not be where it is today in terms of progress. So it's a catch 22 situation.

 

[TheHiveMind]

Unforgivable abuse of the rememberance ceremony btw

Broken mindset akin to "She looked hot, she was asking to get raped"

And in his example of "unequal wealth distribution" he uses a white guy as an example, when there are richer black guys.

He needs to have his brain rewired, it is not working.

 

[McSack]

Maybe not, but that doesn't excuse the Europeans arriving here, digging up the minerals and shipping them off to Europe to profit & build their own countries.

To be fair they spent a helluva lot of that profit building up this country as well

 

[Jola]

Maybe not, but that doesn't excuse the Europeans arriving here, digging up the minerals and shipping them off to Europe to profit & build their own countries.

Just what are you trying to say, the minerals are still being shipped off to Europe ? We can't use all that stuff here!

 

[McSack]

Maybe not, but that doesn't excuse the Europeans arriving here, digging up the minerals and shipping them off to Europe to profit & build their own countries.

Just what are you trying to say, the minerals are still being shipped off to Europe ? We can't use all that stuff here!

While we're at it let's just tell all those greedy foreign investor types to GTFO ... we don't need them developing industry here and then expecting to make a profit

 

[Mila]

Why do they want to nationalize it? Close all the mines. Then you stop the apartheid legacy dead in it's tracks. No more mining. Full stop.
I did not know the apartheid bosses chained people to the mines.