Video editing laptop

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My brother asked the impossible of me...

His friend is 1st year drama at UP. He is looking for a laptop to edit his videos. It seems like it's only videos taken by cameras that needs editing, no animated stuff.

I'm pretty sure a laptop isn't the best option, since his budget is limited:confused:

Anyways, what do you guys recommend he should get?
 
Whats the budget?

I would recommend you get a CPU that has hyperthreading, last time I checked most if not all i3 processors have this, i7 would be ideal but it's much more expensive.

Also get one with at least 4GB of RAM.

I can't really go looking for a laptop for you since you have not provided the budget, so I will list the cheapest I can find that would suit his needs.

Intel Core i3 Sandy Bridge:
Lenovo IdeaPad B590 Notebook - R4417
Lenovo B570 Notebook - R4646
Acer Aspire E1-571 NX.M09EA.027 - R4677

Intel Core i3 Ivy Bridge:
Lenovo IdeaPad G580 Notebook - R4938
Blue Edition
Red Edition
 
NomNom is right - i3's will do fine. The footage will likely be in 1080p at most, and even my meager B980 laptop handled 1080p footage from a DSLR in Adobe Premiere just fine. RAM is the most important factor. 4Gb minimum, upgradable to 8Gb.
 
This is going to be quite a long post. I might be going too in depth here for your brothers requirements, so please bear with me! :o

How seriously does he want to get into video editing?

If you going to use Adobe Premiere then make sure you have LOTS of RAM - especially if he's gonna be working with DSLR footage. RAM can be picked up for a few hundred Rand. 4GB an absolute minimum, but try aim for 8GB at least. A rule of thumb is that you can never have too much RAM. Video editing software stores the decompressed video frames in RAM.

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First, some background on how video editing software handles compression...

DSLR footage uses the common H.264 codec (MP4), and this requires the CPU to do a lot of decompressing when scrubbing through or even just playing back footage, as H.264 codecs use what is known as "Long-GOP" compression. Long-GOP stands for Long Group of Pictures.
Long-GOP works by only encoding or compressing certain frames individually (say 1 in every 15 frames). These 1 in every 15 frames or 'key' frames are known as I-frames. To get the rest of the frames in-between the I-frames compressed, the codec only records the changes in the image from one frame to the next, rather than the image as a whole, and the area's of the frame that don't change are discarded.

This allows the codec to squeeze video content into a much smaller file size than if every frame was compressed individually. This is great for getting nice small file sizes, but the BIG downside to long-GOP compression is that it is much more processor intensive than dedicated intra-frame video codecs - especially with video editing software! This is because every time you scrub or play back footage, the processor has to take the information from the I-frame or 'key' frame and rebuild all the frames in between. It has to do this every time you move through footage. This isn't much of a problem on systems with lots of horsepower, but it can be a problem on slower systems.

Many video editors would first convert their Long-GOP footage into a codec that uses what is known as Intra-frame compression. Intra-frame codecs compress each frame independently without interpolating the frames in between. This means that when you scrub on your timeline, the CPU only has to decompress the frame the marker is on and not the 15 odd frames in between.
This means that the video is far less CPU intensive, and you can scrub an edit without any lag from the video editing software. The downside to I-Frame encoded footage, is that file sizes tend to be quite large.

All H.264 or MP4's use Long-GOP compression - hence why you would need a higher spec'd machine to edit DSLR or AVCHD footage.

An i3 will probably be a bit under powered for serious video editing, but this all depends on how much editing your brother plans to do.

If he can't afford a faster laptop or PC, then there is an alliterative solution to edit HD video fairly effortlessly! He'll have to convert the footage to an intermediate (I-Frame) codec. This will allow him to edit on even the low end scale of CPU's out there. The drawback is that all the footage would have to be converted first, and depending on how much footage there is, this could take hours.

Dunno if this helps :/
 
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I won't recommend a laptop to begin with, unless he has a big budget.

I'd recommend at the very least an i5, 8GB of RAM and 1-2TB HDD. There are perhaps also AMD 8 core CPU's within the same price range as the Intel Core i5's, which should be better suited for video editing.

Like this past week I've compiled a DVD with music videos using Adobe Premiere CS5 and it took quite a while to transcode on my overclocked i7 920 and I almost ran out of 8GB of RAM too.

One of the other reasons why I won't recommend a low budget laptop is due to the poor resolutions on those things: 1366x768!
Even with my screen giving me a resolution of 2560x1600 I wished I had more screen real estate when I worked in the Adobe suite.

Perhaps he should consider looking for second hand stuff?
 
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I won't recommend a laptop to begin with, unless he has a big budget.

I'd recommend at the very least an i5, 8GB of RAM and 1-2TB HDD. There are perhaps also AMD 8 core CPU's within the same price range as the Intel Core i5's, which should be better suited for video editing.

Like this past week I've compiled a DVD with music videos using Adobe Premiere CS5 and it took quite a while to transcode on my overclocked i7 920 and I almost ran out of 8GB of RAM too.

One of the other reasons why I won't recommend a low budget laptop is due to the poor resolutions on those things: 1366x768!
Even with my screen giving me a resolution of 2560x1600 I wished I had more screen real estate when I worked in the Adobe suite.

Perhaps he should consider looking for second hand stuff?

Yeah, screen size is always a b1tch! Eyefinity with 3 x 27inch monitors would be nice though :D

http://cdn.overclock.net/4/41/419e0372_vbattach136115.jpeg
 
Anybody mention that you MUST go 64bits (and not 32bits) to really make use of anything over 4GB of RAM?

Ok.. When i work with video in Laptop (private stuff, nothing professional) I always connect a high res external display. If the laptop that you are looking for has HDMI, great.
If Adobe Premiere is too much for you, you can always look at SONY VEGAS. And if vegas is still too much, use COREL VIDEOSTUDIO.
All these three allows you to work on 'extended desktop' (which means on one screen you have your main work and the other screen your video)

All post above are right. Go for the best specs that you can afford. Processor i5 or i7 with lots of RAM and win7 64 bits.
 
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