Visual Studio 2017 - Where to purchase

[Solarion]

Anyone know where i can buy this? Preferably the Pro edition.

 

[etienne_marais]

Anyone know where i can buy this? Preferably the Pro edition.

Standalone solution: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing/
'cloud' solution - : https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing/
standard subscription - https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing/#tab-b8953f16f0b68f60f18

Community edition is free and not overly limited in functionality and ability, but I take it you are going next level. Note that is says: "Powerful IDE, free for students, open-source contributors, and individuals", thus I presume if working in solo/one-man-business capacity you can use that ?

 

[Solarion]

Expensive ouch. Will have to wait until the new year.

Thanks etienne

 

[etienne_marais]

Expensive ouch. Will have to wait until the new year.

Thanks etienne

edited, not sure what your needs are though

 

[Solarion]

edited, not sure what your needs are though

Community edition sounds perfect. It's literally just for home use, single person.

Edit: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

Looks about right actually.

 

[etienne_marais]

Community edition sounds perfect. It's literally just for home use, single person.

Edit: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

Looks about right actually.

Just curious, what have you been using up to now (if your previous c# questions were more than academic that is)

 

[Solarion]

Just curious, what have you been using up to now (if your previous c# questions were more than academic that is)

VS 2015. Been using it for some time now.

My subscription for that ends in December.

 

[Johnatan56]

Community edition sounds perfect. It's literally just for home use, single person.

Edit: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

Looks about right actually.

Yeah, Community is for you.

For all other usage scenarios:
In non-enterprise organizations, up to five users can use Visual Studio Community. In enterprise organizations (meaning those with >250 PCs or >$1 Million US Dollars in annual revenue), no use is permitted beyond the open source, academic research, and classroom learning environment scenarios described above.

Community and Professional are the same thing, just the license is different. Enterprise has extra features.
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/compare/

EDIT:
If you actually need to purchase, do rather look at IntelliJ's Rider (+Resharper) https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/ and has arguably better feature implementation.
It comes in substantially cheaper:

Unless you need some specific Enterprise feature or something else that it's missing. There are trials for it to mess around with it. Most I know install VS Code Prof. and still install jetbrains' resharper, but I haven't used either tool, so play around with it.

This versus VS:


I don't code in C#, but I do have the Jetbrains student license, so used it for Golang, Pycharm, PHPStorm, and IntelliJ, and must say they build really nice IDEs. Still use VS Code for anything work related though, I prefer its git integration and due to license.

 

[Solarion]

Yeah, Community is for you.

Community and Professional are the same thing, just the license is different. Enterprise has extra features.
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/compare/

I don't need any extra features. Like literally my projects at home are research/academic based. Most of it involves standard CRUD with some Interops/PDF reporting. That sort of thing.

Edit: I was working from home until recently I got a job so decided not to renew 2015. However I would love 2017 at home!

I'll start downloading it tonight from Microsoft.

 

[Johnatan56]

I don't need any extra features. Like literally my projects at home are research/academic based. Most of it involves standard CRUD with some Interops/PDF reporting. That sort of thing.

I'll check out community, might start downloading it tonight.

You still have a university email? You can register for IntelliJ's suite for free. https://www.jetbrains.com/student/
I am exploiting their offering and will probably perpetually buy a license once I stop being a student and can afford. Their product suite is just really, really good. Just the parameter hints already makes it worth it so I don't have to keep swapping to check:

And for PHPStorm it's able to actually do method checks in terms of fetching the DocBlock and actually warning if the type isn't what the DocBlock recommends.

I seem to have veered off-topic and started punting Jetbrains, sorry, but I really like their products.

 

[Solarion]

Hey that's really nice, like an extended intellisense?

I'll register with them, still have my Uni email yes.

 

[Johnatan56]

Hey that's really nice, like an extended intellisense?

Kinda, could say it's an IntelliSense on steroids.
It's just so many little things that Jetbrains does right. Most of their programs are huge, compared to e.g. VS Code or (don't crucify me) Netbeans, but the feature set they bring is great and I actually have way better performance with it than Visual Studio. VS feels like a behemoth to me, mostly because I don't use most of its features, I'm too noob/not enterprise.

EDIT: as a side note, anyone using PHPStorm and using PHP: https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/7622-php-inspections-ea-extended-

 

[Spacerat]

VS 2015. Been using it for some time now.

My subscription for that ends in December.

Really? then you've been missing out on all the language features from .NET 3.5 onward! Holy smokes...

 

[[)roi(]]

Really? then you've been missing out on all the language features from .NET 3.5 onward! Holy smokes...

Nope. Microsoft has always tended to backfiit .net, so he already did have access to .net 4.6; and as of as of December so too .net 4.7 -- so the missing stuff is really only limited to .net core 2.0 and the very latest language features e.g. syntactic sugar for tuples in C#

 

[[)roi(]]

Kinda, could say it's an IntelliSense on steroids.

That's very much a personal choice; IMO intellisync for the most part is just a pain in the arse; much like that fat blue arsed fly that just won't leave you alone.

 

[N@t3]

Anyone know where i can buy this? Preferably the Pro edition.

PM Me will hook you up.

 

[Johnatan56]

That's very much a personal choice; IMO intellisync for the most part is just a pain in the arse; much like that fat blue arsed fly that just won't leave you alone.

I know your opinion of IDEs, you hate anything past Vim.

For most of us it helps a lot, especially e.g. smart code refactoring (some people write the most complex code ever for simple tasks that automated code refactoring can usually clean up nicely, I really don't want to do that manually). VS 2017 also has it, but I think Resharpers is still better according to a lot of reviews/comments online. I like stuff that makes my life easier, you're just a lot faster than most of us and these tools seem to slow you down, so it's good for you to work without, but I am definitely not at that level yet where I'd be faster without.

PM Me will hook you up.

He doesn't need as academic/personal, so community edition is for him.

 

[[)roi(]]

Community edition sounds perfect. It's literally just for home use, single person.

Edit: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

Looks about right actually.

It's more than adequate; plus I've never seen value in any of the features og enterprise edition, so with CE you're missing nothing.

 

[Johnatan56]

It's more than adequate; plus I've never seen value in any of the features og enterprise edition, so with CE you're missing nothing.

You don't use automated testing? Assume it's due to you writing your own test suite then I hope.
Again, it's all dependent on the project, just know friends where work purchased the Enterprise for them due to that.

 

[[)roi(]]

know your opinion of IDEs, you hate anything past Vim.

For most of us it helps a lot, especially e.g. smart code refactoring (some people write the most complex code ever for simple tasks that automated code refactoring can usually clean up nicely, I really don't want to do that manually). VS 2017 also has it, but I think Resharpers is still better according to a lot of reviews/comments online. I like stuff that makes my life easier, you're just a lot faster than most of us and these tools seem to slow you down, so it's good for you to work without, but I am definitely not at that level yet where I'd be faster without.

Lol... Actually my go to editor for the most part is Sublime Text, vim is more a fallback option, but that doesn't mean I'm never in VS, or any otherr IDE.

As for VS intellisync I find that 9/10 times it mucks up and just slows me down more than it assists, and you certainly won't find me anywhere near Resharper. its all a personal preference -- VS is quite tolerable once I turn most of those irritants off.