VMware ESXi no more

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Broadcom have a habit of ruining the technology they take over. Did it to BlueCoat and Carbon Black.

VMWare is going down the same route.

Already converted everything to proxmox
 
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Broadcom is ****ing people left right and center with vmware licensing.
It's despicable that they're discontinuing perpetual licensing and forcing people to move to a subscription model.

They're also ditching education discounts. Some institutions are seeing their license costs rise by a factor of 10.
 
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Sinbad said:
Broadcom is ****ing people left right and center with vmware licensing.
It's despicable that they're discontinuing perpetual licensing and forcing people to move to a subscription model.

They're also ditching education discounts. Some institutions are seeing their license costs rise by a factor of 10.
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Good. Less money to spend on Diversity, Inclusion and Equity.
 
It will drive a lot of people to use Opensource alternatives which will boost existing projects that will thrive because of it.
 
konfab said:
Good. Less money to spend on Diversity, Inclusion and Equity.
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Except you know that that budget won't be cut, it will be something else like maintenance.
 
Let's hope ProxMox / XCP-ng don't end up getting bought by the likes of Oracle.
The more choice / competition the better.
 
OCP said:
It will drive a lot of people to use Opensource alternatives which will boost existing projects that will thrive because of it.
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Maybe, a lot of chatter coming from big corps is that it is cheaper to just pay the licensing than to do a migration and struggle with downtime and integration. Broadcom probably knows this so that's why they aren't afraid to do what they are doing now. The home lab and small companies aren't their target market so they don't care what this does to them, since those small users tend to always hop between free software alternatives instead of paying.
 
Mystic Twilight said:
Maybe, a lot of chatter coming from big corps is that it is cheaper to just pay the licensing than to do a migration and struggle with downtime and integration. Broadcom probably knows this so that's why they aren't afraid to do what they are doing now. The home lab and small companies aren't their target market so they don't care what this does to them, since those small users tend to always hop between free software alternatives instead of paying.
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Totally that's why I said people and not companies/corporates.

That is the the whole reason they upped the price and changed licensing, knowing corporates would rather pay /are unable to switch quickly.
 
Mystic Twilight said:
Maybe, a lot of chatter coming from big corps is that it is cheaper to just pay the licensing than to do a migration and struggle with downtime and integration. Broadcom probably knows this so that's why they aren't afraid to do what they are doing now. The home lab and small companies aren't their target market so they don't care what this does to them, since those small users tend to always hop between free software alternatives instead of paying.
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The problem with that view is that it won't grow your business. The reason those big corporations use VMware is cause IT pro's use to use VMware at the start before they got big.

Simple example: The company I was gonna install ESXi for, is small and doesn't need massive roll out.... YET. If I use Nutanix for them now, what do you think is the chance that they will hop over to VMware once they scale.
 
Dammit and VMWare was just improving nicely on on 3D rendering. latest version is running smoothly on my PC at home.

Where am I going to find another windows based VM package now?
 
AlphaJohn said:
The problem with that view is that it won't grow your business. The reason those big corporations use VMware is cause IT pro's use to use VMware at the start before they got big.

Simple example: The company I was gonna install ESXi for, is small and doesn't need massive roll out.... YET. If I use Nutanix for them now, what do you think is the chance that they will hop over to VMware once they scale.
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IF the company goes big, furthermore that's if your alternative fits within the company regulatory requirements, whatever they may be. An example of where killing off a free product and still retaining growth is red hat, old centos died with the less desirable stream replacement but red hat are still growing in revenue with their paid only red hat products. Yes alma/oracle/rocky (and ubuntu and other) linux exists, but the paid only red hat still booming.

I'm sure there will be some percentage of people migrating away permanently, but the bean counters at broadcom have probably figured it was worth it, and only time will tell if revenue grows or declines. If you're unlucky, after broadcom is done with vmware they might just open their wallet to buy nutanix.
 
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