Vumatel installing next to Openserve

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I have had fibre installed by Openserve early this year, when they installed in our street and the surrounding neighborhood. Now a Vumatel rep came to my door and asked me to sign a consent form for a Vumatel wall box Because ‘fibre is coming’!
He said I don’t have to sign up yet, it’s just to be ready if I want it. I told the young student rep we already have fibre, which he hadn’t been told. The form says there will be trenching in the street! So then this will be second time in a year. Will Vumatel dig fibre cables into the ground alongside Openserves?! How many different infrastructure providers can do this? Or is it possible Openserve is letting Vumatel upgrade one of their areas?! I read they have partnered where there is no presence, but this seems crazy, when some streets don’t have any fibre.
I called my ISP, RSAweb, but they couldn’t advise.
 
hereandthere said:
I have had fibre installed by Openserve early this year, when they installed in our street and the surrounding neighborhood. Now a Vumatel rep came to my door and asked me to sign a consent form for a Vumatel wall box Because ‘fibre is coming’!
He said I don’t have to sign up yet, it’s just to be ready if I want it. I told the young student rep we already have fibre, which he hadn’t been told. The form says there will be trenching in the street! So then this will be second time in a year. Will Vumatel dig fibre cables into the ground alongside Openserves?! How many different infrastructure providers can do this? Or is it possible Openserve is letting Vumatel upgrade one of their areas?! I read they have partnered where there is no presence, but this seems crazy, when some streets don’t have any fibre.
I called my ISP, RSAweb, but they couldn’t advise.
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maybe they will be running overhead cables?
 
Wall box and trenching is active Ethernet, not crappy aerial.
#winning
 
Ok right got you. Openserve only did trenching in the Road, then aerial, however I put in underground conduit in my garden so their aerial part is limited in my case. But I still don’t understand why two providers are going at it.
 
If Telkom internet is cheaper on Vumatel than on Openserve, well, why are you complaining? There aren't many neighbourhoods that are in the fortunate position of more than one FTTH provider.

As LazyLion said, go with Vumatel when it's available. It'll cost you less each month, and you'll get better speeds and service.
 
Also heard vumatel will be rolling out in our area alongside Openserve
 
hereandthere said:
I have had fibre installed by Openserve early this year, when they installed in our street and the surrounding neighborhood. Now a Vumatel rep came to my door and asked me to sign a consent form for a Vumatel wall box Because ‘fibre is coming’!
He said I don’t have to sign up yet, it’s just to be ready if I want it. I told the young student rep we already have fibre, which he hadn’t been told. The form says there will be trenching in the street! So then this will be second time in a year. Will Vumatel dig fibre cables into the ground alongside Openserves?! How many different infrastructure providers can do this? Or is it possible Openserve is letting Vumatel upgrade one of their areas?! I read they have partnered where there is no presence, but this seems crazy, when some streets don’t have any fibre.
I called my ISP, RSAweb, but they couldn’t advise.
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Its called competition they vuma will deploy in a suburb where there is a telkom/openserve presence - but they wont deploy in a suburb where there is a MetroFibre, MTN or Vodacom.
 
Nomadman said:
Its called competition they vuma will deploy in a suburb where there is a telkom/openserve presence - but they wont deploy in a suburb where there is a MetroFibre, MTN or Vodacom.
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MetroFibre is currently trenching everywhere around me, and Vumatel is scheduled to begin on Monday.
 
Yster21 said:
Why is aerial crappy?
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The biggest difference is the Active Ethernet vs GPON.

You can read up on the differences, as there are many articles all over, but basically Active Ethernet means you have a single fibre line to the exchange, that is not shared by anybody, where as with GPON you share the line with 8,16,32 whatever the installer decides.

There is also the look of aerial, which makes things look bad in the neighborhood.

Lastly, aerial is more susceptible to the elements than trenched. So more likely to go down, give problems during heavy winds and even breaking during hail.
 
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OpenServe prices can do with a bit of competition...
 
This is hard to read, Now the guys with Fiber are getting more Fiber, while we without Fiber can't do anything about it sigh.

I hope to see the openserve/Vumatel bakkies in my area soon(ish)
 
Competition is nice but dealing with the mess and trenching again would be a tough one. Anyways, vuma came first in my complex so I doubt the others will follow. Competing with telkom is one thing but the rest would rather dig up a new suburb than try compete with each other in one suburb I am thinking.
 
Nomadman said:
Its called competition they vuma will deploy in a suburb where there is a telkom/openserve presence - but they wont deploy in a suburb where there is a MetroFibre, MTN or Vodacom.
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isie said:
incorrect, my hood Metro and Vuma are rolling out
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And it seems in Verwoerdpark, Alberton, we are getting both Vodacom and Vumatel...
 
R4ziel said:
This is hard to read, Now the guys with Fiber are getting more Fiber, while we without Fiber can't do anything about it sigh.

I hope to see the openserve/Vumatel bakkies in my area soon(ish)
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It is about the rings so to speak. It is better for vuma to start in a point, and expand from that point like a circle. Covering all the areas within...
 
DERoestorf said:
The biggest difference is the Active Ethernet vs GPON.

You can read up on the differences, as there are many articles all over, but basically Active Ethernet means you have a single fibre line to the exchange, that is not shared by anybody, where as with GPON you share the line with 8,16,32 whatever the installer decides.

There is also the look of aerial, which makes things look bad in the neighborhood.

Lastly, aerial is more susceptible to the elements than trenched. So more likely to go down, give problems during heavy winds and even breaking during hail.
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I have read up on it, which is why I ask why it is "crappy".

There are two entirely different things being spoken about here: aerial vs trenched installation, and AE vs GPON technology.

The aerial fibre is incredibly strong. There have been cases of trees falling on the cables, and end up being suspended by the aerial fibre without any fibre cores breaking. I've heard of a taxi knocking a pole over, only with the pole hanging by the fibre and the fibre remaining perfectly in tact. I don't think hail will have any impact on the cables. A couple of weeks ago we had the massive storm in the West Rand that caused devastation in our area, and the fibre was perfectly fine. Mall roofs collapsed and skylights were destroyed by hail and wind, yet I was smashing at 100 Mbps through the storm.

Trenching also has a multitude of cons, if you could be bothered to do a bit of a search on those. Both roll-out strategies have pros and cons. Neither is clearly superior in all aspects. Trenching is really only feasible in high density population areas, for instance where there are a lot of flats and complexes.

Fibre can, on a theoretical level, support up to 1 Pbps (10^15 bps) of throughput per channel. That's millions of years of HD video, per second. The congestion won't sit in the fibre, but in the end-point equipment, which can be upgraded (XGPON, etc). I am not aware that GPON congestion is an issue at the moment, thus no upgrades are required.

GPON is perfectly fine, as is aerial installation.
 
Vumatel aerial is not their greatest product. There are issues with the integration of fibrehoods systems with their own. Just ask @PBCool.

Vumatel trenched is rock solid bulletproof awesomeness.
 
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