Wait for iPhone 5 ?

I just poured apple juice all over my friends htc desire...I guess it couldn't handle them apples
 
I'm confused. Neither does iOS? This is a bit of an odd rant.
It's pretty simple really. Apple controls the hardware and the software so you're assured of a perfect match. Apple is also renowned for the fit and finish of their products. Google has little or no control outside of the software.

And please, look up the word 'rant' before you use it in an accusatory way again.
 
It's pretty simple really. Apple controls the hardware and the software so you're assured of a perfect match. Apple is also renowned for the fit and finish of their products. Google has little or no control outside of the software.

And please, look up the word 'rant' before you use it in an accusatory way again.

I do believe when it comes to a baseless argument, such as this, it constitutes a rant, yes. Unfounded emotionally charged hype that just because it has an Apple badge it's quality can not be denied. In fact Consumer Report disagrees with your entire statement and won't recommend the Verizon iPhone, a different iPhone 4 build with poorer quality and reliability.
 
I do believe when it comes to a baseless argument, such as this, it constitutes a rant, yes. Unfounded emotionally charged hype that just because it has an Apple badge it's quality can not be denied. In fact Consumer Report agrees and won't recommend the Verizon iPhone, a different iPhone 4 build with poorer quality and reliability.
Is this the same Consumer report that acknowledged the original iPhone4 to be the Best Smartphone last year despite the over-exagerated Antennagate issue? :rolleyes:

If the OP is concerned about the death grip phenomenon maybe he should wait for the iPhone 5.
 
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Is this the same Consumer report that acknowledged the original iPhone4 to be the Best Smartphone last year despite the over-exagerated Antennagate issue? :rolleyes:

If the OP is concerned about the death grip phenomenon maybe he should wait for the iPhone 5.

Fine, so the AT&T iPhone was a good phone last year. Yet the same manufacturer makes slightly different hardware with a slightly different iOS version and it's a disaster. This proves that controlling the hardware and software by no means guarantees the quality or reliabilty of the phone.
 
Fine, so the AT&T iPhone was a good phone last year. Yet the same manufacturer makes slightly different hardware with a slightly different iOS version and it's a disaster. This proves that controlling the hardware and software by no means guarantees the quality or reliabilty of the phone.
Consumer Reports seems to be the only ones having a problem - http://gizmodo.com/#!5730642/the-verizon-iphones-got-a-new-antenna - this does not a disaster make.
 
Either way it proves that same hardware and software manufacturer gives different quality of phone. It's not merely an "Android thing".

Because when Apple redesigned it to accommodate CDMA it actually improved on the phone's design? You're absolutely correct.
 
Because when Apple redesigned it to accommodate CDMA it actually improved on the phone's design? You're absolutely correct.

Not everyone agrees with that statement, but if Steve said so...
 
Not everyone agrees with that statement, but if Steve said so...
Steve is largely a salesman selling a product he is passionate about. Personally I tend favour the opinions of people who have used a product in the the real world when I'm looking to make a purchase. You said that the iPhone 4 was a good phone last year, if the reports from various sources mentioned in the Gizmodo piece are to be believed then surely the phone has now been improved if the antenna issues have been even marginally mitigated? Good phone last year, better phone now.

All of course is moot here in SA because our networks are not CDMA but at least we have established that the iphone 4 is a "good phone".
 
Steve is largely a salesman selling a product he is passionate about. Personally I tend favour the opinions of people who have used a product in the the real world when I'm looking to make a purchase. You said that the iPhone 4 was a good phone last year, if the reports from various sources mentioned in the Gizmodo piece are to be believed then surely the phone has now been improved if the antenna issues have been even marginally mitigated? Good phone last year, better phone now.

All of course is moot here in SA because our networks are not CDMA but at least we have established that the iphone 4 is a "good phone".

The iPhone is not only a good phone, it is one of the best phones. I mean really, what can android phones do that the iPhone can't video call over our networks? The DHD can't either, because it doesn't even have a front facing camera. The iPhone 4 was the premium phone when it came out last year.

Back on topic:

Go for the iPhone 4 as the wait for the iPhone 5 will be long still. If you are fine with your current phone and don't mind waiting till October or so then wait.
 
Steve is largely a salesman selling a product he is passionate about. Personally I tend favour the opinions of people who have used a product in the the real world when I'm looking to make a purchase. You said that the iPhone 4 was a good phone last year, if the reports from various sources mentioned in the Gizmodo piece are to be believed then surely the phone has now been improved if the antenna issues have been even marginally mitigated? Good phone last year, better phone now.

All of course is moot here in SA because our networks are not CDMA but at least we have established that the iphone 4 is a "good phone".

Sure I can agree in particular instance that it will have no effect on the SA market, however this is not guarantee for the future. If this is an indication the next generation could theoretically include a great CDMA iPhone 5 and a mediocre GSM iPhone 5 for this country. Point is that being an Apple, and being a closed proprietary system, does ensure the phone will be good - no more than any Android device.

It is up to you to research you options first, and as you said to favour the opinions of people who have used the product in the real world. The same applies to Android, I researched for several weeks before reaching my decision. Yes there are some downsides to Android, which will in this hopefully be improved upon, and yes my friend's iPhone 4s were really nice and definitely a big part of my decision to switch to touch screen technology, but these opinions eventually swayed me to Android which I concluded was the better option.
 
The iPhone is not only a good phone, it is one of the best phones. I mean really, what can android phones do that the iPhone can't video call over our networks? The DHD can't either, because it doesn't even have a front facing camera. The iPhone 4 was the premium phone when it came out last year.

Back on topic:

Go for the iPhone 4 as the wait for the iPhone 5 will be long still. If you are fine with your current phone and don't mind waiting till October or so then wait.

The same can be said about any technological purchase, there will always be the next best thing on the horizon. It's a case of "chasing the dragon" in your pursuit of "technological heroin".
 
The same can be said about any technological purchase, there will always be the next best thing on the horizon. It's a case of "chasing the dragon" in your pursuit of "technological heroin".

Yes it can be said, but the OP specifically asked if he should wait for iPhone 5 or get the iPhone 4. You can give alternatives, but he wants one of the two. Being in an iPhone thread and asking for advice between the two iPhones clearly means he prefers the iPhone ecosystem for some or other reason and if he was interested in android he would have said so, after the suggestion or in his OP. He hasn't so there is no need to speak about android in the iPhone forum.
 
Sure I can agree in particular instance that it will have no effect on the SA market, however this is not guarantee for the future. If this is an indication the next generation could theoretically include a great CDMA iPhone 5 and a mediocre GSM iPhone 5 for this country. Point is that being an Apple, and being a closed proprietary system, does ensure the phone will be good - no more than any Android device.
Unlike the older GSM model the new CDMA iphone has a Qualcomm MDM6600 radio chipset in it that is designed for GSM and CDMA. A newly designed iPhone5 would be in a great position to incorporate an antenna designed to accommodate both networks in which case differences in hardware quality over both networks is unlikely.
 
Yes it can be said, but the OP specifically asked if he should wait for iPhone 5 or get the iPhone 4. You can give alternatives, but he wants one of the two. Being in an iPhone thread and asking for advice between the two iPhones clearly means he prefers the iPhone ecosystem for some or other reason and if he was interested in android he would have said so, after the suggestion or in his OP. He hasn't so there is no need to speak about android in the iPhone forum.

This is an iPhone forums for locals, there's nothing for you here!

Which is entirely untrue, so try gain some perspective as this is a first and foremost a technology forum. There are dedicated iPhone forums on the Intenet, were this really the case.

That being said, you've made it abundantly clear that there is a huge gap between the current iPhone generation and the next. We're merely pointing out that waiting is not the only other option, and the OP may not be aware of this. And that's what it is about, choice. But as Bwana stated it's about researching your choices and reading the opinions of others in the know, not just plain all out ignoring them because it might not fit your profile. I believe in this instance ignorance is the biggest menace, we're giving him a choice you're insisting on keeping him in the dark.

If the OP doesn't want the advice, then he doesn't need to read it or follow it.
 
Unlike the older GSM model the new CDMA iphone has a Qualcomm MDM6600 radio chipset in it that is designed for GSM and CDMA. A newly designed iPhone5 would be in a great position to incorporate an antenna designed to accommodate both networks in which case differences in hardware quality over both networks is unlikely.

Well let's hope they've learnt from their mistakes.

However, in my opinion, this should not have happened in a fourth generation phone as the radio is the most basic and fundamental of all components in a device of this sort. Next time the radio may be perfect, but something else may go awry.
 
I was looking at the HTC Desire HD and the iphone 4. Everyone seems to say that the HTC is better but i am gonna wait for the iphone 5. Gonna be incredible according to the speculators
 
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