Warning Letter From ISP

babyinateacup said:
I already own said title on blu ray but I don't want to infringe on copyright laws by ripping the title, getting an online copy of something I own already isn't illegal? I just don't want the hassle to keep swapping discs and use a HTPC. If the movie or any movie for that fact was available locally as a paid-for download - I'd be first in line.
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easier to rip
 
xrapidx said:
Really? So its not illegal for an ISP to monitor your activity?
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Nope. It is up to them (And you as the customer).
Same way that it is illegal for the US government to log your activities on Google etc without court orders (It violates privacy laws) but Google itself violates your privacy by monitoring your activity, which is legal, as they are a private company and you have a choice to use them or not
 
Don't stress about it. Overseas companies monitor the IP Addresses and forward copyright notices onto the providers. Some providers like telkom just discard the notices, others pass them along to cover their own asses. They just want to know that you have deleted the material and then they're in the clear.
 
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Odracir said:
So what you saying is that the private company owns the movie?
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Two different issues, but yes.
Paramount (A private company) owns the movie.
Imaginet may inspect and monitor all traffic that goes through their servers (Which I doubt they do. But they can)

EDIT: They might actually do it for throttling, but I imagine it is not a deep inspection
 
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FYI, anyone on IS backbone will have to FWD these to you. It's not Imaginet themselves, it's IS. Imaginet has to comply with IS rules
 
I would not worry about it. Some ISP's do forward these messages and others don't. Water's are too murky between ISP's and movie companies. They don't have right to impose their issues on the ISP - The ISP cannot control what the user is getting, they can frown about it, but they too, have no ownership on content. When they do forward that notice, it is pretty much a courtesy to whatever company or to maybe discourage you from using more bandwidth with a "Passop Papa". :). I may be wrong here but this is how I have heard it over the past couples years - And it seems to make sense.
 
It's Not Like I Do It All The Time (that's what she said)

VJB 449 said:
The short answer - ignore it.
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I'll play it by ear, I don't download much. But I'm not going to worry about it for now. Once I get a court order I'll start packing and head to Canada!!!

Thanks you guys!:D
 
AcidRaZor said:
stop pirating ****
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JStrike said:
You don't own the movie. You licensed the right to view it on a specific medium.
You can get most movies on iTunes or similar services
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Keegan said:
Piracy after all is stealing... (Just a reminder)
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I see some of you hotshots still do not know how this works!

You don't get nailed for downloading it, you get nailed for seeding it. In other words illegally distributing it. This is why he received the infringement notice
 
babyinateacup said:
I'll play it by ear, I don't download much. But I'm not going to worry about it for now. Once I get a court order I'll start packing and head to Canada!!!

Thanks you guys!:D
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Imagenet is merely bound by their MOU with IS to inform you about it. In our country there are no explicit laws around this issue :)
 
YingYang said:
I see some of you hotshots still do not know how this works!

You don't get nailed for downloading it, you get nailed for seeding it. In other words illegally distributing it. This is why he received the infringement notice
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The correct solution is to get his content legally instead of ripping off the content producers
 
YingYang said:
I see some of you hotshots still do not know how this works!

You don't get nailed for downloading it, you get nailed for seeding it. In other words illegally distributing it. This is why he received the infringement notice
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Below is the full notice, downloading/uploading same thing.......




Please find below complaint information:
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Subject: RE: [Internet Solutions #] Update: Case ID - Notice of Claimed Infringement
Sent to:
Service Identifier:
Company Name:
Assigned to:
Suspected Activity: Illegal software
Client IP Address:
Client IP Netblock:
Stalled Status: Client notified

ORIGINAL COMPLAINT - 1006485
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Thursday, April 05, 2012


Internet Solutions
The Campus, 57 Sloane Street
Bryanston
Johannesburg, Gauteng, 2021 ZA


RE: Unauthorized Distribution of the Copyrighted Motion Picture
Entitled
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance


Dear Abuse Department:

We are writing this letter on behalf of Columbia Pictures Industries
Inc., ("Columbia Pictures") who owns certain rights under copyright
law in the title Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance.

You are receiving this notice because your Internet account was
identified as having been used recently to copy and/or distribute
illegally the copyrighted motion pictures and/or television shows
listed at the bottom of this notice. This notice provides you with the
information you need in order to take immediate action that can
prevent serious legal and other consequences. These actions include:

1. Stop downloading or uploading without authorization any motion
pictures or TV shows owned or distributed by Columbia Pictures; and

2. Permanently delete from your computer(s) all unauthorized copies
you may have already made of these movies and TV shows.

If this notice is being received by an Internet Service Provider
(ISP), please forward the notice to the individual associated with the
activities.

The unauthorized distribution or public performance of copyrighted
works constitutes copyright infringement under the Copyright Act,
Title 17 U.S Code Section 106(3)-(4). This conduct may also violate
the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works
and The Universal Copyright Convention, as well as bilateral treaties
with other countries that allow for protection of Columbia Pictures
copyrighted works even beyond U.S borders.

Copyright infringement also violates your ISP’s terms of service and
could lead to limitation or suspension of your Internet service. You
should take immediate action to prevent your Internet account from
being used for illegal activities.

An MPAA website, www.respectcopyrights.org, offers step-by-step
instructions to ensure that your Internet account is not being used to
violate the copyright laws. Also, the site can point you to an array
of legal choices for enjoying movies and TV shows online.

Please contact us at the above listed address or by replying to this
email should you have any questions.

We are providing this notice based on our good faith belief that the
use of motion pictures and television programs owned by Columbia
Pictures Industries Inc. in the manner complained of is not authorized
by the copyright owners, their agents, or the law. The information in
this notification is accurate. Under penalty of perjury, we are
authorized to act on behalf of the owners of the exclusive rights that
are being infringed. This letter is without prejudice to the rights
and remedies of Columbia Pictures, all of which are expressly
reserved.

We appreciate your assistance and thank you for your cooperation in
this matter. In your future correspondence with us, please refer to
Case ID

Your prompt response is requested.

Respectfully,

D. Brewer
Enforcement Coordinator
Peer Media Technologies, Inc.
[email protected]



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INFRINGEMENT DETAIL
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Infringing Work: Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance
First Found: 5 Apr 2012 09:13:10 EDT (GMT -0400)
Last Found: 5 Apr 2012 09:13:10 EDT (GMT -0400)
IP Address: 196.209.226.61
IP Port: 16595
Protocol: BitTorrent
Torrent InfoHash: 7C8F23EDF286696657D89A8C68BA6FF5103F4055
Containing file(s):
Ghost.Rider.Spirit.Of.Vengeance.2012.720p.HDRip.READNFO.x264.AAC-
26K.torrent (1,987,693,889 bytes)



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COMPLAINT END - 1006485


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I don't think they are allowed to do anything unless they get a lawyer in SA to represent them? It doesn't make sense cause our piracy laws are diffirent from those in the US. For very obvious reasons you can expect us to know the laws in other countries we dont reside in. Not saying we can break their laws but still If I'm in South Africa and they quote "Copyright Act,
Title 17 U.S Code Section 106(3)-(4)" that means bothing really cause the infringment happend in a non us country.....

Maybe I'm wrong but if they want to do anything they need to send you a letter that quotes south african pricay act?

Correct me if I'm wrong........


And for those who say piracy is stealing..... Please.... http://nynerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/piracy-is-not-theft.gif


EDIT: Ohh btw better get Telkom cause they NEVER forward those emails to its customers only IS does.
 
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