Water prices set to soar

you know? I wouldnt mind paying what was needed to sort the problem out.
Not paying extra so that our resident theives can line thier pockets.
 
dlk001 said:
When the water supply network fails, you run out of water. Water supply network includes:

- Wastewater treatment
- Water treatment
- Water storage facilities
- Water distribution network
- Water Management
- Billing Management

SA local municipalities are generally poor at managing all the above.
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I agree, but my point is that it is often caused by mismanagement and various other factors that are within our control, not a restriction on the actual resource. The water purification process should ideally cater for all common types of pollution, but more often than not, pollution is used as a scapegoat to cover up mismanagement.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
He asked you where he said anything about planting water, as you claimed. I haven't seen you point it out yet :confused:
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Not. should I make it again?

You can not make water. you can not plant water. you can plant more wheat.
 
I wonder if South Africa will start looking at large scale water desalination at some stage. That I think will really push up prices for sure. But I heard they looking at using the new Nuclear Power plants that is being planned to do the conversion for us. Guess it makes sense. If you see those white clouds blowing up from Nuclear Power plants you cant help but think hell...why not condense it back to liquid and drink it?
 
Mila said:
Not. should I make it again?

You can not make water. you can not plant water. you can plant more wheat.
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Lol don't take this the wrong way but I honestly have no idea what you're blabbering on about. Perhaps you do have a point that you failed to put across clearly. If so, you have my apologies and I'll stay out of it :)
 
Mbuzi said:
When it is privatised it runs out. As with everything private companies tend to create this perception that scarcity is natural made when in essence it's greed made in order to inflate the prices that we pay for goods. Nature always provides an abundance of resources and scarcity on natural products is a myth. Demand can't exceed supply for natural products, take for instance if we plant a certain amount of wheat and for that year we see that we didn't plant enough then the following year and going forward we will plant more and nature won't limit us. IMO
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If we don't have enough water - how are we gonna plant more wheat without those crops failing miserably??
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Lol don't take this the wrong way but I honestly have no idea what you're blabbering on about. Perhaps you do have a point that you failed to put across clearly. If so, you have my apologies and I'll stay out of it :)
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oke so he was saying that if wheat is not enough we plant more. And scares natural resources is a myth.

So I asked him ( on the topic of water ) How do you plant water?

;) Maybe we are taliking about weed in the water price increase thread. :D I'm not smoking it though.
 
Everything will eventually 'run out' if population growth relative to available resources is not balanced, and it is not being balanced, prepare for the eventual worst case scenario.

Those who live accountable lives will keep paying more and more, whilst government is not progressive and does not invest income earned on those areas/resources that need maintenance or long term planning, and whilst free services will remain being rendered to the ever expanding welfare proportion of the population.

Eventually we will be told that decorative trees in gardens are not sustainable, that gardens are not sustainable, that the water is needed to service the expanding poverty sector.

New water treatments plants - where are they being planned ?
Desalination plants - where are they being planned ?
New water cachement areas and dams - where are they being planned ?
Upgrading of old and current municipal residential plumbing systems ?
Possible climate change causing less rainfall in some areas and more in others ?

Without a progressive government and long term planning, you might as well start
erecting rainwater tanks now, just like with solar panels.

Our population growth does not equal our progressiveness in these issues, this apathetic erosion is slow but sure.

Charging more for a resource does not secure more in the long term, it only secures more income for government
to displace or misspend now.


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Cynical about the way things are going ? - you should be
 
3 Ways to plant more water:

1) Build More Dams
2) Create water H + 2O
3) Desalinize

There is an endless supply of water if you capture it all....
 
Aahh - just had a big cold glass full - will return some of it later :p
 
Freaksta said:
3 Ways to plant more water:

1) Build More Dams
2) Create water H + 2O
3) Desalinize

There is an endless supply of water if you capture it all....
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1) Catchement areas (dams) don't create more water, and can have disastrous effects downstream.
2) Create water? No wonder people mention weed in this thread...
3) REALLY expensive.

You can't just grab all the water and be done with. That's like snipping off an artery in your body and just pretending everything is OK.
 
Water as a household utility is no different to electricity or telephone service or internet service. The supply of it as a product should be completely privatized. The government can't look after a couple hundred rhinos or fill the potholes on the roads, but we expect them to benevolently manage an incredibly scarce and important resource? Please...
 
I think we've been doing a fairly good job of managing our water in Cape Town. We also already have it priced such that those who use a lot pay a massive amount more for it. And I don't have a problem with providing a small amount free to those that need it.

Hard Rain said:
Water as a household utility is no different to electricity or telephone service or internet service. The supply of it as a product should be completely privatized. The government can't look after a couple hundred rhinos or fill the potholes on the roads, but we expect them to benevolently manage an incredibly scarce and important resource? Please...
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Privatization can only work if there is the possibility of real competition. Furthermore it is no guarantee of continued supply of water or proper maintenance of infrastructure. It is certainly not the panacea it's fanatical supporters make it out to be.
 
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