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Optimus01

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Has anyone had any experience with iBurst WDSL?

How is it?

Is it reliable?

Back up service?

Thank you kindly
 
r00igev@@r said:
It is a brilliant product! I'll have the guys contact you.
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This is why you don't do drugs, kids.

( But seriously, iBurst's billing department is a good enough reason to avoid using them at all costs )
 
And that's why I added "But seriously" afterwards, because anything before that was not meant to be taken as such. :)

Didn't mean to cause offense.
 
Has anyone got experience with this product?

Telkom are really dragging their heels with my adsl lines and I need a connection asap.
 
Optimus01 said:
Has anyone got experience with this product?

Telkom are really dragging their heels with my adsl lines and I need a connection asap.
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I've been using a W-DSL link for a few months now and the speed and stability is something else. Below some test results for you.

Just looked at a few downloads running from Giganews in the US and saw this:
Download Dir: 8.75 GB - Complete Dir: 8.75 GB - Download speed: 1119.18 KB/s - Queued: 370.39/1202.54 MB
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Check the current download speed! That's like 10Mb/s! International!

The underlying structure of W-DSL is the same as our Premier MetroNet product, so while you don't get any SLAs on W-DSL, it runs across the same network that carries a 99.5% SLA.

You also don't get a speed guarantee (like all consumer networks), but you can see that I'm getting up to 10Mb/s on a 5Mb/s link. Ronald can explain better, but I know there are other W-DSL users in my area and clearly we are sharing links. So while my own speed is pegged at 5Mb/s, it looks like I can burst to the full capacity of the (shared) link, when available.

If this is true, you'd be clever to get a few buddies together, all with W-DSL and make sure you share the main link back to iBurst, i.e. one of you acts as the master node. ;)

Some results I collected a while ago:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/777945679.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/777944221.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/777818164.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/777943441.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/777948465.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/777947245.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/777947735.png
 
Latency is waaay better than on ADSL in my area lol.
Pity that service is so expensive.
 
Jagtiger said:
Latency is waaay better than on ADSL in my area lol.
Pity that service is so expensive.
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Taking the underlying infrastructure into consideration (microwave), it's substantially cheaper than any other similar offering in the market, even the bonded DSL offerings which is, by definition, copper. But it is still not in the same price-class as DSL although one should make sure to compare apples with apples.

Two major differences you get with W-DSL over ADSL:

1) Contention is pegged at max 10:1. As the uncapped services on DSL picks up, we're going to see some silly contention ratios there. I won't be surprised to see 100:1.
2) W-DSL is symmetrical. In other words you get 5Mb/s down and UP. For most consumers this is not really an issue, but if you run a business with VoIP, its essential. A lot of people who run voice over DSL are learning they can hear what the other party is saying (using the downlink side), but cannot be heard properly by the other party (as uplink is so much slower) :)

If you run a home office (like I do), over W-DSL, it really begins to make sense. I have 4 voice lines and all my data across this link and if I compare to my original Telkom bill, I'm now paying less. (While getting access to a international news server at 10Mb/s!)
 
Don't be fooled iBust is THE worst isp on the planet. Billing support service signal reliability everyting is pathetic. Take your money elsewhere
 
jannievanzyl said:
Taking the underlying infrastructure into consideration (microwave), it's substantially cheaper than any other similar offering in the market, even the bonded DSL offerings which is, by definition, copper. But it is still not in the same price-class as DSL although one should make sure to compare apples with apples.

Two major differences you get with W-DSL over ADSL:

1) Contention is pegged at max 10:1. As the uncapped services on DSL picks up, we're going to see some silly contention ratios there. I won't be surprised to see 100:1.
2) W-DSL is symmetrical. In other words you get 5Mb/s down and UP. For most consumers this is not really an issue, but if you run a business with VoIP, its essential. A lot of people who run voice over DSL are learning they can hear what the other party is saying (using the downlink side), but cannot be heard properly by the other party (as uplink is so much slower) :)

If you run a home office (like I do), over W-DSL, it really begins to make sense. I have 4 voice lines and all my data across this link and if I compare to my original Telkom bill, I'm now paying less. (While getting access to a international news server at 10Mb/s!)
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What's about a service that replaces DSL (speeds, over that wimax) and has same price as Telkom's ADSL, plus ability to use any ISP (i.e. like Telkom's wimax)?
 
jannievanzyl said:
Taking the underlying infrastructure into consideration (microwave), it's substantially cheaper than any other similar offering in the market, even the bonded DSL offerings which is, by definition, copper. But it is still not in the same price-class as DSL although one should make sure to compare apples with apples.

Two major differences you get with W-DSL over ADSL:

1) Contention is pegged at max 10:1. As the uncapped services on DSL picks up, we're going to see some silly contention ratios there. I won't be surprised to see 100:1.
2) W-DSL is symmetrical. In other words you get 5Mb/s down and UP. For most consumers this is not really an issue, but if you run a business with VoIP, its essential. A lot of people who run voice over DSL are learning they can hear what the other party is saying (using the downlink side), but cannot be heard properly by the other party (as uplink is so much slower) :)

If you run a home office (like I do), over W-DSL, it really begins to make sense. I have 4 voice lines and all my data across this link and if I compare to my original Telkom bill, I'm now paying less. (While getting access to a international news server at 10Mb/s!)
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Does iBurst offer this service?

How much is it, and what needs to be installed to use it?
 
Jagtiger said:
What's about a service that replaces DSL (speeds, over that wimax) and has same price as Telkom's ADSL, plus ability to use any ISP (i.e. like Telkom's wimax)?
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Two points:

- Building a new, national wireless network is a hugely expensive exercise. So trying to compete directly with a established, copper network is problematic at a pricing level. While consumers don't really care, having wireless networks at ADSL-like pricing (like we have with iBurst) is an anomaly outside of South Africa. Even the much higher wireless data pricing we see locally from the mobile operators, compete well internationally.

So it's not an easy task to run a national wireless network at the same price points as the incumbent fixed-line provider. But we try.

- Separating the network from the ISP is much more doable and, in fact, we are already doing it for iBurst Wireless and some of our other wireless networks.
 
jannievanzyl said:
Two points:

- Building a new, national wireless network is a hugely expensive exercise. So trying to compete directly with a established, copper network is problematic at a pricing level. While consumers don't really care, having wireless networks at ADSL-like pricing (like we have with iBurst) is an anomaly outside of South Africa. Even the much higher wireless data pricing we see locally from the mobile operators, compete well internationally.

So it's not an easy task to run a national wireless network at the same price points as the incumbent fixed-line provider. But we try.

- Separating the network from the ISP is much more doable and, in fact, we are already doing it for iBurst Wireless and some of our other wireless networks.
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Thank you, that's clears up a bit.
 
bex.cpt said:
Don't be fooled iBust is THE worst isp on the planet. Billing support service signal reliability everyting is pathetic. Take your money elsewhere
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I beg to differ, Neotel is the worst ISP (imo anyway). Their billing support service signal reliability everyting is pathetic!

@jannievanzyl, if I could get that kind of connection speed, it would be great.
 
Just looked at a few downloads running from Giganews in the US and saw this:
Download Dir: 8.75 GB - Complete Dir: 8.75 GB - Download speed: 1119.18 KB/s - Queued: 370.39/1202.54 MB:cry:
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Jannie, they gonna throttle you like Afrihost does! 128k for you for the rest of the month. :D:D
 
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