Wealth and provision help

Something that hasn't been explicitly mentioned: Retirement plans exist, and should only be used for two reasons:

1. Tax benefit
2. Employer contribution match.

Other than that, they tend to be a great way to lose money slowly. Retirement funds traditionally have high fees and piss poor performance, and it's not inconceivable that you might end up with less money in the end than you paid in over the years.

That's changing with companies like 10X. Instead of charging you an arm and a leg for active funds that underperform, they have a low cost structure and offer funds that track the same indexes as some of the funds you'll find in the TFSA. Some of the more established players are responding on the cost front, not sure how it compares now.

Either way, be very very picky about costs. If you don't understand the cost structure, and can't figure it out in a reasonable amount of time, move on.

Secondly, Tax Free Savings Accounts have been mentioned, but no one really explained why. They're really meant to be investment accounts, although some banks are offering cash savings in the same vehicle. You don't pay income tax on interest earned in the account, not capital gains tax if you sell ETF units, and no tax on dividends earned [1]. The only thing you do pay is the fund fee (differs from fund to fund) and the provider's commission for the transactions. From what I've seen Easy Equities is far the best option at the moment.

TFSA is (currently) limited to R33k per year up to a total of R500k (takes about 15 years). This should be the first priority every year.

Lastly, make make sure you have an emergency fund first, i.e. cash that's available on short notice, and that can see you through 3-6 months if you lost your job. Have a month's worth in an instant access account, stagger the rest in 30-day, 60-day, etc high-interest rate accounts.
 
Something that hasn't been explicitly mentioned: Retirement plans exist, and should only be used for two reasons:

1. Tax benefit
2. Employer contribution match.

Other than that, they tend to be a great way to lose money slowly. Retirement funds traditionally have high fees and piss poor performance, and it's not inconceivable that you might end up with less money in the end than you paid in over the years.

That's changing with companies like 10X. Instead of charging you an arm and a leg for active funds that underperform, they have a low cost structure and offer funds that track the same indexes as some of the funds you'll find in the TFSA. Some of the more established players are responding on the cost front, not sure how it compares now.

Either way, be very very picky about costs. If you don't understand the cost structure, and can't figure it out in a reasonable amount of time, move on.

Secondly, Tax Free Savings Accounts have been mentioned, but no one really explained why. They're really meant to be investment accounts, although some banks are offering cash savings in the same vehicle. You don't pay income tax on interest earned in the account, not capital gains tax if you sell ETF units, and no tax on dividends earned [1]. The only thing you do pay is the fund fee (differs from fund to fund) and the provider's commission for the transactions. From what I've seen Easy Equities is far the best option at the moment.

TFSA is (currently) limited to R33k per year up to a total of R500k (takes about 15 years). This should be the first priority every year.

Lastly, make make sure you have an emergency fund first, i.e. cash that's available on short notice, and that can see you through 3-6 months if you lost your job. Have a month's worth in an instant access account, stagger the rest in 30-day, 60-day, etc high-interest rate accounts.
Que? Not for a while now. Sygnia Skeleton balanced 70 fund (0.65% TER), Nedgroup Core Accelerated Fund or the ABSA Core RA Fund is cheap as chips.

http://www.stealthywealth.co.za/2018/01/the-best-ra-in-south-africa.html
 
Could someone help me understand maximising tax benefits with an RA? It just doesn't click for me, I am guessing because I am slow.

I understand that the sweet spot percentage is 27.5%, with a max of 350k per year. So to fully utilize that, I'd have to contribute 27.5% of what clears in my account every month, or contribute 27.5% of my gross? I once tried working out what I'd get back, but I got hella confused. Either way, it stings, but the latter stings more. I don't know how people can contribute so much.

One other question I have is if it's a good idea to have more than one RA. So if I had R2000 to contribute every month, I send R1000 to one RA, and the rest to another. To me, if both funds performed the same, and had the same fees, you'd see the same growth in both, or the same growth if you had to choose one. I was thinking of splitting my contributions between 10X and Sygnia. I haven't done so yet though.

Anyway, to contribute this thread instead of hijack, my plan was to:

* Pay off debt
* Properly insure myself (disability and sickness cover)
* Start taking better care of myself
* Build up an emergency fund (mostly accomplished - I have almost a couple months salary easily accessible, if that's not enough, some credit cards)
* Invest in some things (like Top 40, S&P 500, individual stocks. Not sure if I recommend individual stocks though)
* Fully fund TFSA every year (this is a priority for me, for two reasons - it's easily accessible money if things hit the fan, and tax benefits. I must say using this money is an absolute last resort for me).
* Push what I am comfortable with to my RA

I go through this loop of reading / listening to financial podcasts / ebooks, changing strategies and where my money goes, moving money around. It never stops. I have also started tracking my net worth, but my big excel doc is a lot of admin.
 
Could someone help me understand maximising tax benefits with an RA? It just doesn't click for me, I am guessing because I am slow.

You basically get back whatever % your personal income tax rate is of the amount you contribute.

If you earn R200 000 a year and you contribute nothing to retirement savings and your income tax rate is 20%, your tax is going to be R40 000 and you take R160 000 home.

If you earn R200 000 a year and you contribute 20% (R40 000) to retirement savings and your income tax rate is 20%, your tax is going to be R32 000 (20% of R160 000) and you take R128 000 home (and you'll have R40 000 invested, so R168 000 up in total). The R8000 you will get back at e-filing time (or don't have to pay to SARS if tax deducted correctly monthly), R8000 is 20% of R40 000.

That's R8000 you can use for your TFSA or whatever.
 
What do you guys think about these?

On Allan Grey's website they have some options on either the Equity fund or the stable fund.

Which is High risk and low risk I presume.

I am reading about these now but would like your input in investing in one of these (or both).

Is this a good strategy?

There are more options to look at.

https://online.allangray.co.za/CreateInvestment/FundSelection.aspx?SubMenuItem=

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Something that hasn't been explicitly mentioned: Retirement plans exist, and should only be used for two reasons:

1. Tax benefit
2. Employer contribution match.

Other than that, they tend to be a great way to lose money slowly. Retirement funds traditionally have high fees and piss poor performance, and it's not inconceivable that you might end up with less money in the end than you paid in over the years.

That's changing with companies like 10X.

I think you should be ashamed for blatant advertising and false information.
 
You basically get back whatever % your personal income tax rate is of the amount you contribute.

If you earn R200 000 a year and you contribute nothing to retirement savings and your income tax rate is 20%, your tax is going to be R40 000 and you take R160 000 home.

If you earn R200 000 a year and you contribute 20% (R40 000) to retirement savings and your income tax rate is 20%, your tax is going to be R32 000 (20% of R160 000) and you take R128 000 home (and you'll have R40 000 invested, so R168 000 up in total). The R8000 you will get back at e-filing time (or don't have to pay to SARS if tax deducted correctly monthly), R8000 is 20% of R40 000.

That's R8000 you can use for your TFSA or whatever.

You seriously giving this financial advice?
 
How can I compare all the different investment companies out there?

How offers the best RA? with the best performing Portfolios?
 
You seriously giving this financial advice?

No, I was using a simple example explaining how the tax benefit works, due to:

Could someone help me understand maximising tax benefits with an RA? It just doesn't click for me, I am guessing because I am slow.

Correct me bro, using more than one valueless sentence,
 
Anyone have any idea why I can't go any further? I have added the minimum amount Lump sum and monthly installments.
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so to be complaint with that regulation your portfolio can only be split x amount over several categories, clearly there it says you are 5.5% over in the equaties, you can only have 75% equaties
 
Anyone have any idea why I can't go any further? I have added the minimum amount Lump sum and monthly installments.
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Try seeing what R40 000 lumpsum in Balanced Fund and R1500 in Balanced Fund and R500 in Equity Fund gives you? You might just crape in as compliant. Else you will have to settle for Balanced Fund only.
 
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