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You have unlimited funds. Access to any technology available in the world today.

I know there are some conspiracy theories surrounding HAARP, but I was wondering whether, with an infinite supply of money and whatever technology is available today (and maybe in the near future with some research) one would be able to control the weather on large scale (creating hurricane, drought in a reigion, etc)?

Using today's technology, how would you go about controlling the weather?
 
I like the way anyone/anything that points out concerns with something is referred to as a conspiracy theory nowadays. Messing with natural weather patterns cannot be good. No conspiracy theory needed.

And to answer your question. Yes, it can definitely be done with an infinite supply of money.
 
There have been rumours for years, since the end of the second world war that countries have been experimenting with weather control devices.

Apparently the Geneva convention even has a section on weather control devices, but I need to go and google that one day. It has also been banned by the United Nations.

The Bermuda Triangle is reputed to be an area of the world that is subject to human created weather phenomena. The US has a military base located at Pine Gap Australia (the direct anti-nodal point from the Bermuda Triangle on the other side of the world). Eye-witnesses claim that there is a massive radio/electro-magnetism transmitter located at that military base which consists of a five mile deep salt-water well and a convex concrete cap/dish on top of the well which can be ionised. There is rumoured to be another one of these radio transmitters located in South Africa as well.

A lot of revelations were made in a book called the[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Conspiracy-Millennium-Stan-Deyo/dp/0908477058"] "Cosmic Conspiracy" by Stan Deyo[/ame]. Apart from a lot of Religious Ramblings, the retired US Air Force officer also includes pages and pages of photocopies from Secret US files detailing investigation into all kinds of technology and phenomena. He also exposes the Illuminati as being behind most of this stuff.
 
I actually watched something the other day about weather alteration. I think it was in China... you blast some chemical into the air the accelerates precipitation. It's bloody expensive though.
 
Some sort of Sodium I believe. The Chinese made it a sunny day for their celebrations.
 
czc said:
Some sort of Sodium I believe. The Chinese made it a sunny day for their celebrations.
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I wouldn't be surprised ... they seem to rig most things in their favour :rolleyes:
 
Interesting concept, gary.

The Chinese made it snow in Beijing the other day with their weather tomfoolery.

The main reason this is in NS and not in Pumpkin Debates is because I was looking for some technical expertise on the matter.

That's why I asked if you had an infinite supply of money, what equipment, procedures, etc would you make use of to alter weather on massive scale?
 
with an infinite supply of money and no greed you'de be typing your thread from your quarters aboard a starship ;)
 
Wrt the china thing, that whole section of the world bickering about how their neighbours are stealing their rain. Funny til you realise...the rain has to come from somewhere.

Wrt the OP, hire some spies to steal the info from china, japan, usa etc. then sit back and enjoy the resultant sunshine
 
battletoad said:
Wrt the china thing, that whole section of the world bickering about how their neighbours are stealing their rain. Funny til you realise...the rain has to come from somewhere.

Wrt the OP, hire some spies to steal the info from china, japan, usa etc. then sit back and enjoy the resultant sunshine
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China must be convinced the world has it in for them.
 
Arbiter said:
You have unlimited funds. Access to any technology available in the world today.

I know there are some conspiracy theories surrounding HAARP, but I was wondering whether, with an infinite supply of money and whatever technology is available today (and maybe in the near future with some research) one would be able to control the weather on large scale (creating hurricane, drought in a reigion, etc)?

Using today's technology, how would you go about controlling the weather?
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A topical subject – what with climate change. You need to know the (global) state-of-play. Computer hardware is simply not sophisticated enough (presently) to be able to model, with any degree of accuracy, global weather patterns with all their dependencies. The weather is so stuffed-up that the ability to predict the weather patterns for the following year would be an accomplishment – let alone in 100 years time.

Statistical trend prediction relies on historical data This was how the weather forecasts were traditionally done. The temperature and rainfall results recorded since the year dot (for January say) in a database are projected. This would give the historical record for January and supply broad parameters for temperature and rainfall. Factored-in is any satellite imagery, a wet finger stuck out the window and a phone call to granny to see how her arthritis is feeling. This would give the local dimension. A global weather system is a complex beast. A static numbers game working on historical data (the kind of number crunching computers do well) is not sufficient. The global weather is a dynamic, ever-changing system where it’s dubious that all the variables have even been identified (and the weather is changing so historical trends are irrelevant). What about that old saw about a butterfly flapping its wings in one part of the world causing a tornado in another part (maybe there’s something here?).

IMO you would need at least a dedicated supercomputer, with specially tailored hardware elements, to simulate conditions (forget about your desktop PC). In addition, recent data on sea conditions, temperature, salinity etc. globally would be required before you could run the simulation into the future to predict conditions. This is where your hypothesis hits a snag. It is possible (given infinite resources) to get the hardware and software to model the system (Cray super computers, etc), but to get real-time data (in time) from various parts of the globe to input into your simulation, will be tricky. Maybe local predictions will be possible – accurate to the extent where they are not influenced by conditions further afield (however, there is massive interdependence).
 
Sigh.

Lightning. Massive thunderstorms. Hurricanes. Not snow falling on China. Hailstorms that kill people, tornadoes that tear up housing, storms that destroy a city.

That sort of thing.

Consider what goes into a hurricane, from nature's side.

Can we, with a hundred trillion dollars of technology and information, create the same condition necessary for a massive hurricane?
 
Arbiter said:
Sigh.

Lightning. Massive thunderstorms. Hurricanes. Not snow falling on China. Hailstorms that kill people, tornadoes that tear up housing, storms that destroy a city.

That sort of thing.

Consider what goes into a hurricane, from nature's side.

Can we, with a hundred trillion dollars of technology and information, create the same condition necessary for a massive hurricane?
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No amount of money in the world will get you to be able to create weather paterns on demand.

Would you be able to create rain? - Sure
Would you be able to Create snow? - Prob.

However this can be done in confined spaces. How are you going to lower air pressure in a certain section of a storm front to cause a Tornado? Or how are you going to create a Cyclone/Huricane?

Somethings yes, other things.... not so much no.

Unless you can confine the space needed so that you can regulate the air pressure needed for some types of storms.
 
There is ample proof that Jews control the weather. Studies have shown that 81% of weather scientists are of Jewish extract. They belive if you can control the weather , you can control the growth of various crops. This you can can control the price at a later stage and reap the rewards
 
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