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[Hamster]

Explain

As in "no you don't need a degree for that".

I've worked on many projects and very few of the guys actually had degrees. You don't need a piece of paper to be an effective developer especially web development. There's not much to explain - reality says it's not the case.

 

[vic777]

As in "no you don't need a degree for that".

I've worked on many projects and very few of the guys actually had degrees. You don't need a piece of paper to be an effective developer especially web development. There's not much to explain - reality says it's not the case.

I started out as self-taught, later did a degree. Worked with many developers over the years, self-taught and degreed. Many self taught developers were excellent, but many didn't have a deep understanding of the areas I mentioned: data structures, logic and mathematical thinking

I did web development for years, I still needed to understand data structures, etc.

 

[Hamster]

I started out as self-taught, later did a degree. Worked with many developers over the years, self-taught and degreed. Many self taught developers were excellent, but many didn't have a deep understanding of the areas I mentioned: data structures, logic and mathematical thinking

I did web development for years, I still needed to understand data structures, etc.

We are talking about the need for a degree, not understanding how to do your job.

EDIT: Did you even bother reading before responding because that is the first thing I said.

 

[_kabal_]

Many developers with degrees were excellent, but many didn't have a deep understanding of the areas I mentioned: data structures, logic and mathematical thinking.


I am glad though that we can have another “self taught” vs degree thread

 

[Hamster]

If you have the opportunity to study it is almost always the best choice. The job largely depends on your abilities but your studies will enhance your skills so it is always a plus.

But just because you studied doesn't make you a good developer. There are degreed guys who are absolutely useless.

 

[vic777]

We are talking about the need for a degree, not understanding how to do your job.

EDIT: Did you even bother reading before responding because that is the first thing I said.

Jesus, chill dude.

The first thing you said was "As in "no you don't need a degree for that".

 

[biometrics]

Because you need to know and understand data structures, logic and mathematical thinking for any kind of development?

You should have learned this stuff in your teens, a degree is too late.

 

[vic777]

You should have learned this stuff in your teens, a degree is too late.

Yeah, sure, how many kids who could become excellent programmers are exposed to data structures, algorithmic analysis and discrete math in high school?

 

[Hamster]

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[cguy]

We are talking about the need for a degree, not understanding how to do your job.

EDIT: Did you even bother reading before responding because that is the first thing I said.

I personally couldn't image doing web development without advanced linear algebra. Trying to rotate images without Krylov subspace methods, or sending queries to a remote database without knowing how Fourier transforms work would be just crazy.

 

[Hamster]

I personally couldn't image doing web development without advanced linear algebra. Trying to rotate images without Krylov subspace methods, or sending queries to a remote database without knowing how Fourier transforms work would be just crazy.

:crylaugh:

 

[animal531]

I personally couldn't image doing web development without advanced linear algebra. Trying to rotate images without Krylov subspace methods, or sending queries to a remote database without knowing how Fourier transforms work would be just crazy.

Haha, you're like this guy answering the fizz buzz interview question using a neural network:
http://joelgrus.com/2016/05/23/fizz-buzz-in-tensorflow/

 

[[)roi(]]

As in "no you don't need a degree for that".

I've worked on many projects and very few of the guys actually had degrees. You don't need a piece of paper to be an effective developer especially web development. There's not much to explain - reality says it's not the case.

Agreed, the notion that a degree is a be-all and end-all, is simply not true; not only doesn't that apply in SA, it certainly doesn't apply internationally. Skilled developers whether degreed or not will always be in demand.

Frankly any company that is more interested in certificates is probably a company best avoided. There are exceptions, most likely specialities, but even that isn't a strict given.