Weight Loss Thread 2014

Haha... my bad! You are correct - it's 92g /100g

sand_man said:
Wait a minute, how's that possible? Surely one sachets net weight is only around 2 grams??!!!

Surely it's 92g carbs per 100g?



Damn it man!! I'm too scared to ask!! Other than nuts and dried mango that's my go to snack!!!! Protein!! Fat!! What am I missing?
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copacetic said:
All the labeled biltong contains sugar, the unlabeled, who the **** knows.
I have a source for home-made, which I will try soon.
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I buy the overpriced biltong from woolworths. 0 carbs on the sliced moist, and 4.2g/100 on the snapsticks, and the free range snapsticks are 1g/100.

On that note: I eat a ton of their raw almonds and raw pecans. (Remember to subtract the fiber carbs from the carb total)
 
Ol' Mean Bastid said:
the only supplements I take are potassium and sodium
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This little aspect of keto doesn't sit so smoothly with me, this high rate of electrolyte turnover. My experience and experimentation have led me to consume crazy quantities of salt because otherwise I suffer. What were paleo people doing for electrolytes? According to Wikipedia, earliest signs of salt processing are only 6000 years old. Where and how were people getting sodium before then? Sure you've got your Masai types with the blood-drinking but how common would that have been? Where do Bushmen get it? And magnesium? I'm pretty sure I recall reading that these things were only figured out as essential to humans some centuries back, so thousands of years ago people would've had no clue. I suppose it's not so absurd that people just died from lack of Na or Mg or whatever.

It doesn't make sense to me that humans are adapted to go on long run-the-animal-down hunts while discarding valuable nutrients along the way in sweat and urine. But then sweating doesn't really make sense itself - using a critical component like water as a disposable cooling system - so chucking a few other nutrients out at the same time isn't such a leap. I guess the benefits it conferred were a good enough trade-off.

This guy suggests paleo people had a fairly low sodium consumption: http://chriskresser.com/shaking-up-the-salt-myth-the-human-need-for-salt

I wonder if high electrolyte requirements correlate with things like dairy tolerance. (iow it's a caucasian thing)
 
Chicken Boo said:
My experience and experimentation have led me to consume crazy quantities of salt because otherwise I suffer.
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I can't really answer your questions, but I did find this podcast on salt interesting.

As a personal experiment, for the last few weeks, I've been having a teaspoon of Himalayan salt in 500ml of water 30 minutes before I actually get out of bed.
 
mister said:
I can't really answer your questions, but I did find this podcast on salt interesting.

As a personal experiment, for the last few weeks, I've been having a teaspoon of Himalayan salt in 500ml of water 30 minutes before I actually get out of bed.
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One teaspoon? Pfft minor leagues dude. Or is that in addition to food salting? But adding salt to water might not be a bad idea, I don't know how else to get it in. I'm fairly insensitive to the taste of salt so if I'm served an over-salted dish with company by the time I'm going "hey isn't this a bit salty?" everyone else has put down their forks and sending disdainful looks towards the kitchen.
So when I say I'm putting a lot of salt on my food... it's ****ing salty. I'm no foodie but, you know, sometimes I'd like to taste something else. However it cures light-headedness like magic and I use that symptom as an indicator of whether I need more. I used to think I just had low blood pressure or something until I figured out the connection.

Since we're on the subject can you recommend where to get Himalayan? I've got pink and blue salt from Woolworths but I'm wondering if I've been duped.
The blue salt label blurb claims it's from Iran and the other side of the label says produced in Iran, packed in SA. Everything in order there, but the pink salt label blurb says it comes from the Himalayan region, while the other side of the label claims produced and packed in SA. Hmmm. Is there a local Himalayan region I'm unaware of that they could be slyly referring to? Otherwise... wtf. I don't trust WW farther than I can throw 'em. I saw pink salt at Dischem recently but it was a large shaker for like half the price I paid at WW. I trust Dischem even less.

Podcast looks interesting but I don't have the bandwidth at the mo.
 
I am about to go bake my no sugar, low carb, high fat cheese cake with low carb carrot cake base using coconut flour and xylitol as regular flour and sugar substitutes.

Haven't used these ingredients before so will post pictures if I get a decent result.

I made it last week and it was beyond fantastic using regular naughty ingredients and its time to be good again, so off to bake I go.
 
Hi, I'm new to this thread, and have a question. Let me first start correctly:

Hi, My name is fanie.dry and I'm a fatty.

All of you go: "Haaaai Faaaaannniiiieeeee".

So here goes. I need to loose some weight, and I need a diet. Before you recommend something, here's my problem.
I don't eat veggies.
Like in foggol. I hate the fsckers. And no, I can't just punish through some for the sake of loosing weight, you don't understand. I despise them. The taste of vegetables makes me nauseous. Things I eat that are vegetable-like, but not vegetables to me (in my mind) lettuce tomato onions mushrooms and the like. But all the really good-for-you vegetables I don't even want on my plate.

So, amaze me with your knowledge, and don't tell me to suck it up... because, well, [insert puke sound here]

Thanks!
 
fanie.dry said:
hehe... carbs? thats bread and rice, right? screw that, feed me meat :D
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Low carb and keto. No bread and rice.
Lots of meat, butter, cheese, eggs and stuff like that. You can stuff your face with bacon every day :p
 
fanie.dry said:
So, amaze me with your knowledge, and don't tell me to suck it up... because, well, [insert puke sound here]
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Fairly "easy" with some discipline (whom am I kidding - it's tough as sh*t). As an example - I was on 98kg (1.76m) last year and went on a low kJ died (so in essence going into ketosis). I dropped carbs to 10g/day and kJ intake to 3000kj/day (this is tough). But it is doable as you can easily get away with cheese, bacon, skinless chicken, red meat, fish (be selective, salmon has too much kJ) and drink a ton of water (at least 3L per day). Make sure that you get into ketosis (you can buy strips to measure it via your urine) and then have it run for 3weeks and then up it to 20g and 3500kJ/day and another 3 weeks and then leave it at 30g per day.

Your food-choices based on daily carbs and kJ will limit you quite a lot - you actually will not be able to have any vegetables except mushrooms (I enjoyed those). In the initial weeks I dropped up to 3kg per week and in 3 months 21kg where gone. This did involve 30 minutes of running per day (was moderate exercise). You can enjoy cool drinks such as Sprite Zero or Tab - avoid anything with high caffeine content. I also dropped my coffee-intake to two cups per day (with 2 sachets of canderel per coffee) and cream instead of milk.

Oh - and forget all the condiments - such as sauces and bread and chocolate. It's really a daily focused exercise, but I am glad that almost a year after I am still on 77kg and have never felt better (nice to drop from a size 40 pant to a size 32 and from an XXL to a M).
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
Fairly "easy" with some discipline (whom am I kidding - it's tough as sh*t). As an example - I was on 98kg (1.76m) last year and went on a low kJ died (so in essence going into ketosis). I dropped carbs to 10g/day and kJ intake to 3000kj/day (this is tough). But it is doable as you can easily get away with cheese, bacon, skinless chicken, red meat, fish (be selective, salmon has too much kJ) and drink a ton of water (at least 3L per day). Make sure that you get into ketosis (you can buy strips to measure it via your urine) and then have it run for 3weeks and then up it to 20g and 3500kJ/day and another 3 weeks and then leave it at 30g per day.

Your food-choices based on daily carbs and kJ will limit you quite a lot - you actually will not be able to have any vegetables except mushrooms (I enjoyed those). In the initial weeks I dropped up to 3kg per week and in 3 months 21kg where gone. This did involve 30 minutes of running per day (was moderate exercise). You can enjoy cool drinks such as Sprite Zero or Tab - avoid anything with high caffeine content. I also dropped my coffee-intake to two cups per day (with 2 sachets of canderel per coffee) and cream instead of milk.

Oh - and forget all the condiments - such as sauces and bread and chocolate. It's really a daily focused exercise, but I am glad that almost a year after I am still on 77kg and have never felt better (nice to drop from a size 40 pant to a size 32 and from an XXL to a M).
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wow. that's amazing.

In August last year I realized that I'm drinking too much Coke, and eating about 1 chocolate every day after support. Drink more than 1l coke bymyself just in the evening. So I started an experiment. No gas cooldrink, except a glass sprite zero/7up free with dinner in the evening. Lots of water. Smaller lunch, small breakfast. Alcohol intake over weekends went from brandy and coke, to cane with 7up free, lemos lite. Sometimes had beer, but just Castle Light. In three months I lost about 10kg.

December I decided to chill with it over the festive period and start up again in Jan. Problem now is, I haven't started. But I need to be more aggresive this time. Hence my question in here, as I want to start this on Monday (along with my new job).

So here I am, 1.74m and 129kg. [insert holy schitballs comments here] And this is almost all around my bier pens :(

I'm definitely going to give your suggestion a go. Going to start and get active as well. Little bit difficult running for 30 minutes in my shape, but I'll start small and work my way up to it :)
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
Fairly "easy" with some discipline (whom am I kidding - it's tough as sh*t). As an example - I was on 98kg (1.76m) last year and went on a low kJ died (so in essence going into ketosis). I dropped carbs to 10g/day and kJ intake to 3000kj/day (this is tough). But it is doable as you can easily get away with cheese, bacon, skinless chicken, red meat, fish (be selective, salmon has too much kJ) and drink a ton of water (at least 3L per day). Make sure that you get into ketosis (you can buy strips to measure it via your urine) and then have it run for 3weeks and then up it to 20g and 3500kJ/day and another 3 weeks and then leave it at 30g per day.

Your food-choices based on daily carbs and kJ will limit you quite a lot - you actually will not be able to have any vegetables except mushrooms (I enjoyed those). In the initial weeks I dropped up to 3kg per week and in 3 months 21kg where gone. This did involve 30 minutes of running per day (was moderate exercise). You can enjoy cool drinks such as Sprite Zero or Tab - avoid anything with high caffeine content. I also dropped my coffee-intake to two cups per day (with 2 sachets of canderel per coffee) and cream instead of milk.

Oh - and forget all the condiments - such as sauces and bread and chocolate. It's really a daily focused exercise, but I am glad that almost a year after I am still on 77kg and have never felt better (nice to drop from a size 40 pant to a size 32 and from an XXL to a M).
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sorry another question. any menu suggestions or links I can look at?
 
fanie.dry said:
sorry another question. any menu suggestions or links I can look at?
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Breakfast:
throw in a few rashers of bacon, when cooked fry a couple of eggs in the bacon fat

Lunch:

2 burger patties, grilled with double cheese and if you still in the mood, yeh bacon
remember no roll or chips or tomato sauce.

Supper:

Grill a large steak with a side of well for you the veg hater, nothing- except wait for it, bacon

Pity you dont like vegetables but you can learn to like them, especially as you can add cream, so make an awesome creamy mushroom and spinach dish but on LCHF (low carb high fat) you can eat as above and lose (YEH its lose with 1 "O") a lot of weight.
 
lived666 said:
Supper:

Grill a large steak with a side of well for you the veg hater, nothing- except wait for it, bacon

Pity you dont like vegetables but you can learn to like them, especially as you can add cream, so make an awesome creamy mushroom and spinach dish but on LCHF (low carb high fat) you can eat as above and lose (YEH its lose with 1 "O") a lot of weight.
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what about a side salad? lettuce, tomato, onion, cheese?
 
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