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I got my new machine at work and I was wondering if anyone knew what this problem might be.

Basicly the PC is an AMD64 3800+, MSI motherboard, Geforce 7800GT, 2GB Kingston Ram, 180GB Hitachi Drive.

We got it from Cyberdyne and we installed it ourselves however after a couple of boots windows XP would say some system files have corrupted.

After doing a repair and trying to install some essentials like Office and Photoshop these programs would not run and simply crash. Then aftera couple of boots Windows XP would come again with the corrupt system files.

I suspect a faulty drive or RAM. The machine is with Cyberdyne at the moment for them to try and resolve this issue, but was just wanting to know if anyone else has experienced and resolved this problem?

Thanks
 
I'd say the harddrive is faulty halicon, I doubt that RAM would corrupt system files. ;)
 
I agree with Teraside, it must be the hard drive. Try see if you could replace it for a new one.. ;)

Otherwise it could be a virus.. :eek: but i doubt it cause you said it's a new machine.

I had a virus about a month ago that corrupted my windows and all executable files...it was called the Tenga virus and i had to download and run NOD32 anti-virus to get rid of it.

Hope this helps :)
 
Grrr!!!! Flippen prebuilt pc's!!!

I hate it. We recently got about 100 prebuilt pc's at work. 37 sent back already!!!!!
 
Peppercorns said:
I agree with Teraside, it must be the hard drive. Try see if you could replace it for a new one.. ;)

Otherwise it could be a virus.. :eek: but i doubt it cause you said it's a new machine.

I had a virus about a month ago that corrupted my windows and all executable files...it was called the Tenga virus and i had to download and run NOD32 anti-virus to get rid of it.

Hope this helps :)
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nahh.. we literallly get the machine, and install windows xp clean so dont think it can be a virus.

The second time round windows kinda of behaved, but appz were giving weird errors not common to RAM which makes me think it could be hardrive or even the motherboard.

we going to request a new machine cuz they 'promised' it was fixed and if we experienced any problems they would build a new one.

lets see.
 
The first thing I'd get into at this stage is fire up (just about any) Linux live CD. I've got Knoppix & Ubuntu CDs and both can do 2 things for me:

- offer a memtest mode at startup
- boot into said live CD environment

..both of which are quite useful: clearly the memtest does as the name says, and if you fail at this point you've got your gremlin. If not, I've found that just getting into a Linux GUI, nevermind a live CD which pushes RAM & CPU that much harder is a pretty thorough stress test that doesn't depend on damaging/interfering with/losing your 'doze system - and if booting up works (and DO get into it: run a couple of games or other apps; if you have a 'net connection somewhere, browse some ..basically give the system something of a thrashing if you can) you've eliminated the board, RAM, CPU & video subsystems as being possible sources of your problem; by process of elimination this would leave the HDD as your likely culprit.
 
bdt said:
The first thing I'd get into at this stage is fire up (just about any) Linux live CD. I've got Knoppix & Ubuntu CDs and both can do 2 things for me:

- offer a memtest mode at startup
- boot into said live CD environment

..both of which are quite useful: clearly the memtest does as the name says, and if you fail at this point you've got your gremlin. If not, I've found that just getting into a Linux GUI, nevermind a live CD which pushes RAM & CPU that much harder is a pretty thorough stress test that doesn't depend on damaging/interfering with/losing your 'doze system - and if booting up works (and DO get into it: run a couple of games or other apps; if you have a 'net connection somewhere, browse some ..basically give the system something of a thrashing if you can) you've eliminated the board, RAM, CPU & video subsystems as being possible sources of your problem; by process of elimination this would leave the HDD as your likely culprit.
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unfotunately i am not too much of a tech head with stuff like this especially with Linux, however i will pass this information on to our tech dude who deals with all the machines. Thanks.

I think it is HDD or m/b and HDD. will keep you guys posted when we find the culprit.
 
halicon said:
unfotunately i am not too much of a tech head with stuff like this especially with Linux, however i will pass this information on to our tech dude who deals with all the machines. Thanks.

I think it is HDD or m/b and HDD. will keep you guys posted when we find the culprit.
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Oh I HEAR ya brother! I too am rather the Linux n00b ..but it REALLY doesn't take a whole lot of tech savvy to boot up the live CD of your choice (and the latest Ubuntu is really good for this) and let it run until you're looking at a desktop. From there, about the only "tech" things you need to know (how to) do is click on random things and generally stuff around :rolleyes: ..seriously, the beauty of this approach is in its (end user) simplicity: YOU have to do very little, all the hard work happens as a result of booting into Linux!
 
Most likely not HDD. More likely RAM, or possibly motherboard (or motherboard settings that interact with the RAM). System file corruption is typical of memory issues.
 
Thanks for updating us halicon, just shows how useless my post above was ;) hehe, you learn something everyday, I never knew RAM could cause something like this, thanks again :)
 
teraside said:
Thanks for updating us halicon, just shows how useless my post above was ;) hehe, you learn something everyday, I never knew RAM could cause something like this, thanks again :)
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dude - it blew my mind to... but the b1tch is sorted now and working like a charm... nice a quick this demon be. but realtek onboard audio cards SUCK!!!
 
Faulty ram can affect anything - all passes thru ram to and from disk.

I suspet that memory parity check is off - most non servers are set up like this because the ram is a bit cheaper.

if you had ecc ram you would most likely have got a ram error,probably during post.
 
vampirotoothus said:
Good to hear its working, but one question...what do you do at work with a monster PC like that?:eek:
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heh heh besides play games after work ;)

nah i work alot with photoshop, freehand and do dev and design in flash. also the machine i had prior to this one was 2 years old so i was due for an upgrade.

old machine was AMD 1800+ 1GB Ram and about 80GB HD. Geforce 4mx i think.
 
bekdik said:
Faulty ram can affect anything - all passes thru ram to and from disk.

I suspet that memory parity check is off - most non servers are set up like this because the ram is a bit cheaper.

if you had ecc ram you would most likely have got a ram error,probably during post.
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isnt kingston ram pretty good though? but yeah, was the first time i have had faults like that, but nice to know for the future.
 
halicon said:
heh heh besides play games after work ;)

nah i work alot with photoshop, freehand and do dev and design in flash. also the machine i had prior to this one was 2 years old so i was due for an upgrade.

old machine was AMD 1800+ 1GB Ram and about 80GB HD. Geforce 4mx i think.
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LOL! Nice, very nice!
 
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