what I learned this weekend

Try some Chilli chocolate tequila next time.

Good stuff :)
I enjoy infusing my own chillies into quervo instead :)

go through what?

you have internet. i'm assuming you have arms and legs. you can write proper sentences. if it's women or guys giving you love problems, we all have that here(thus the sub-forum). i'm not telling you to be grateful for what you have but i don't get what this is?

life IS ****. from the moment you're conceived there are a million things that can harm you and kill you. it's also beautiful when you get away from the **** long enough. you can't choose what happens to you in life, but you can choose how you react to it.

nobody remembers a *****. so you have nothing to lose, beat up an ******* in traffic. go piss on Malema. go sky diving without a parachute. you can take risks now that you never could with your life because you don't give a crap from what i understand, but you'd rather do it quietly and feebly. that is what i don't get? or am i wrong?



you don't do it to yourself, but again, you can choose how you react. you can either shovel the **** or tell someone to **** off. you can let someone **** you over in a relationship or you can call them up and tell them what a whorish dumb**** they are. and when people are pushed to their limits they become tougher, or they quit. and you're quitting.

personally, i'd rather be a loser than a quitter. a loser has more courage and balls than a quitter, because he can get up and dust himself off. quitters don't get respect. even people that fall down 30 ****ign times get respect.

and maybe you're not a good guy, maybe you're a complete twat and you deserve this imaginary karma, you can't choose how people react to you, you can't change the past, but you as a person are capable of SO MUCH. you haven't even tapped the amount of incredible things you can do with your life, but here you ar quitting.

i'm not better. i whine about my wife and ****ed up life here too. but i know that i have a choice everyday of how i want ot live my life, and quitting has never been one of them

I get your point. I really do. But at which point do you think "Okay, enough is enough"?

You have to understand that I don't see it as quitting. At any point in time there comes a time where you just have to throw in the towel. In your life you have quit several things that just couldn't be accomplished, I'm sure of it, we all have.

The definition to insanity is simple. Hitting your head against a brick wall, expecting a different outcome each time (I paraphrase Albert Einstein)

So either I change my expectations, or I keep hitting my head hoping that the outcome changes.

Regardless. Only 2 things are certain in life. Death and Taxes. I already pay tax. Why can't I choose the other too? On my own terms. How is that giving up?

When/if your granddad died, did you label him as a quitter too? We all die. What makes it so much different to choose to?

And yes, I know how idiotic the last "argument" sounds like.

"Look at me Tyler, my eyes are open" - The Narrator
 
I enjoy infusing my own chillies into quervo instead :)



I get your point. I really do. But at which point do you think "Okay, enough is enough"?

You have to understand that I don't see it as quitting. At any point in time there comes a time where you just have to throw in the towel. In your life you have quit several things that just couldn't be accomplished, I'm sure of it, we all have.

The definition to insanity is simple. Hitting your head against a brick wall, expecting a different outcome each time (I paraphrase Albert Einstein)

So either I change my expectations, or I keep hitting my head hoping that the outcome changes.

Regardless. Only 2 things are certain in life. Death and Taxes. I already pay tax. Why can't I choose the other too? On my own terms. How is that giving up?

When/if your granddad died, did you label him as a quitter too? We all die. What makes it so much different to choose to?

And yes, I know how idiotic the last "argument" sounds like.

"Look at me Tyler, my eyes are open" - The Narrator

there is a difference between dying and choosing to die because you're afraid/bored/sad.

it is your life, you can do whatever you want with it, i just want you to understand it's the lowest of lows. not from am orality perspective, but as an organsim, animal, species, person of rationality, etc
 
I hear stories of people hitting "rock bottom" and then bouncing up and everything being great. And they lived happily ever after.

I'm just wondering how far down the rabbit hole I need to still go before that happens to me and IF that even will happen to me.

Sure you can argue it's a state of mind. That I should choose to bounce back. And that's the inner struggle I'm so tired of having.

Anyway, some animals do commit suicide. Just a random factoid there for you.

I'll think about what you said.
 
Rock bottom can be anywhere, I hear that. And we all have different techniques for managing it as well (the club/gym/etc suggestions) but eventually you will have to find your happy place. It can be a real bitch, trust me I know. It took me a good lot of months to turn my crap around - and I never realised that the first few of those months were just the process of reaching rock bottom.

Good luck with it all.
 
I hear stories of people hitting "rock bottom" and then bouncing up and everything being great. And they lived happily ever after.

I'm just wondering how far down the rabbit hole I need to still go before that happens to me and IF that even will happen to me.

Sure you can argue it's a state of mind. That I should choose to bounce back. And that's the inner struggle I'm so tired of having.

Anyway, some animals do commit suicide. Just a random factoid there for you.

I'll think about what you said.

Bouncing back and living happily ever after is the hollywood version. The reality is that people realise that what was bothering them doesn't really matter, and they just move on and learn to cope. Or not.

I find the key is to not give a sh## :)
 
...people hitting "rock bottom" and then bouncing up...

I understand when you say that you get the 'general' advice and or comments so I will not even try and go there as I know what you mean. Been there and done that.

Came as near as dammit to the proverbial edge of the cliff, still don't know what pulled me back but thanking my little stars each day for whatever it was. Sometimes someone needs **** like this to get them on the path where they belong. Managed a major turnaround and achieved more in the past two years than in the decades before that.

All I'll leave you with is that yes, life is a bitch but it so so much worth living it...
 
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