What is expensive: Local loop or international?

[kaspaas]

Hi,

did I detect a shift in Telkom's claims of where the costs are?

Previously they claimed that ADSL has to be expensive because of international bandwidth costs.

They blew that excuse by actually reducing the cost of international phone calls.

Now I read that the reason for expensive Telkom calls are the costs associated with local loops...

 

[Alkine]

telkom is costing too much, nothing more and nothing less

 

[bHOLDher]

Its all just lies lies lies. Lies never make sense over a period of time.

 

[kilps]

Lets make a book - Telkoms Lies - maby it could beat the Lord of the Rings (Full collection - hardback edition) in weight

 

[Gaz{M}]

What are these local loop costs? My line is so **** and old that i keep getting disconnected. It probably hasn't been replaced in 40 years. Think of all the rental money i've paid that hasn't gone into replacing my copper... Liars!

 

[nOhIwAy]

What are these local loop costs? My line is so **** and old that i keep getting disconnected. It probably hasn't been replaced in 40 years. Think of all the rental money i've paid that hasn't gone into replacing my copper... Liars!

I think this could be uncovered ....

Taking into account only local call rates and make a comparison
with a state in US - say Arizona, topographically and climate wise
not too different from South Africa.

Maybe I will find the time to do some research on population densities,
no. of telecomms providers and so on.

In Arizona you pay about $25.00 fixed monthly cost for unlimited state
calls.

Technology wise things must be about the same - just copper.

If the playing fields are the same and assuming those telecomms in Arizona are making a profit then we should be able to help Telkom realise its vision of becoming a world player.

Some facts :

South Africa pop. density - 35 per sqkm. with pop 45m ?
Arizona pop density - 70 per sqkm. pop 6m ?

South Africa line density - 12 to 15 per 100
Arizona

As of 2002 the state of Arizona had 12 long-haul fibre optic cable providers !!
South Africa I think has one


http://www.commerce.state.az.us/pdf/prop/sesreports/telecom.pdf

 

[nOhIwAy]

Some more :

One program aiming to bring telephone service to more of Arizona’s reservation residents is the Vision-
One program subsidized federally and being implemented in Arizona and New Mexico by CellularOne.11
Through this program, tribal members residing on the Navajo, Hopi, and White Mountain Apache reservations
will be able to buy 25 months of cellular service for only $25, including a free cell phone and free
calls to tribal agencies. Such programs should more quickly bring telephone service to areas not served by
landlines, which are expensive to run to low-density population areas.


The 1998 NTIA report noted that telephone penetration nationally was lower among poor, non-white and
less-educated households. Among the group including Native Americans, Eskimos and Aleuts, penetration
was only 72.3%. !!!!!! ---------->>>>> Sizwe pay attention

 

[arf9999]

not strictly on Topic....

Isn't it politically incorrect to call them "Eskimos"? I thought they used the name "Inuit" now.

 

[Gaz{M}]

Why are we suddenly talking about Eskimos? This is MyADSL.co.za, not MyRacialSlur.co.za. Oh sorrry, i meant "Inuit".