Quality - many metrics to measure it by, yielding a different result. People, each having their chosen set of metrics to measure their chosen interest of quality. Mechanical, interior, exterior, longevity,comfort,reliability - metrics can be added to all these facets of quality and come up with surprising results.
I believe in the car industry, quality is biased whichever mouth it comes from. VW boys will cry reliability but the recent spate of turbo diesels needing new turbo's kind of defeats that whole argument, then again they pray on the reliability of electronics and a load of people jump up complaining about windows that go up and down by themselves and aircons going bust at 3000km's and lights not working etc. Same too with BMW! And then you'll get the defense full of diehards claiming it never happened to them since they owned a VW or BMW, which is true! My car only had the clutch replaced, that's all trouble it ever gave me, and this for an Alfa!
Mercedes Benz goes through globes like water goes through your system...in the last 2 years of my father in law owning his 3rd Merc...he's replaced the fog lights and the headlight bulbs more than 7 times!:wtf:
He had a BMW 5 series which he uses for traveling - left him stranded alongside the road on 2 occasions...overheating!:wtf:
Just came from an ITIL course in JHB - the instructors BMW diesel left him pennyless after 18k was demanded for "work" done...when he fetched the car from BMW, error lights still flashed!
Friend's S3 - has error lights flashing all the time, the motor control light stays on but the car drives normal - no mods!
Guy I know bought a 3.2 GT with less than 30k on the clock...the radio won't work:wtf:
Toyota and Honda recalling cars.
Drove a Toyota Yaris sedan as a rental...what load of crap...did they intentionaly design the car to depress its drivers? In traffic I had to turn to teh side of the road to let the car cool down as the clutch began to slip and smell, worst of all...the coolant mixutre could be smelt from inside the plastic interior!:wtf::erm: - They litteraly made this car to go from A - B, no safety, no excitement, no poise, no performance, no QUALITY - and yet they expect people to pay well over R120 000 for a white one...which people do!:erm:
Golf 5 GTi - clutch problems - know 4 guys who had clutches replaced under waranty! Is that the measure of quality? "Nah bru, it has waranty!" So....erm, you know something will go bust but you are happy as long as you have waranty?
How do we measure quality? Obviously your a carnut because you talk about cars all day long, you drive what you love, hopefully, you defend your brand to the fullest, but I think quality is a relative term in the car industry nowadays. Quality means a lot of things to many different people...to me, when I sit in my 147 I can still smell the Italian leather, I sit low and hugged by those sports seats, the dash is not plasticky...the red dials and red lights...that to me is quality, when i cruise on the highway...I put foot in 5th and it goes, that to me is engineering, the quiet, the comfort even though its lowered on H&R springs...that to me is quality...that Yaris is not quality...what to you in your car, signifies quality?
I believe in the car industry, quality is biased whichever mouth it comes from. VW boys will cry reliability but the recent spate of turbo diesels needing new turbo's kind of defeats that whole argument, then again they pray on the reliability of electronics and a load of people jump up complaining about windows that go up and down by themselves and aircons going bust at 3000km's and lights not working etc. Same too with BMW! And then you'll get the defense full of diehards claiming it never happened to them since they owned a VW or BMW, which is true! My car only had the clutch replaced, that's all trouble it ever gave me, and this for an Alfa!
Mercedes Benz goes through globes like water goes through your system...in the last 2 years of my father in law owning his 3rd Merc...he's replaced the fog lights and the headlight bulbs more than 7 times!:wtf:
He had a BMW 5 series which he uses for traveling - left him stranded alongside the road on 2 occasions...overheating!:wtf:
Just came from an ITIL course in JHB - the instructors BMW diesel left him pennyless after 18k was demanded for "work" done...when he fetched the car from BMW, error lights still flashed!
Friend's S3 - has error lights flashing all the time, the motor control light stays on but the car drives normal - no mods!
Guy I know bought a 3.2 GT with less than 30k on the clock...the radio won't work:wtf:
Toyota and Honda recalling cars.
Drove a Toyota Yaris sedan as a rental...what load of crap...did they intentionaly design the car to depress its drivers? In traffic I had to turn to teh side of the road to let the car cool down as the clutch began to slip and smell, worst of all...the coolant mixutre could be smelt from inside the plastic interior!:wtf::erm: - They litteraly made this car to go from A - B, no safety, no excitement, no poise, no performance, no QUALITY - and yet they expect people to pay well over R120 000 for a white one...which people do!:erm:
Golf 5 GTi - clutch problems - know 4 guys who had clutches replaced under waranty! Is that the measure of quality? "Nah bru, it has waranty!" So....erm, you know something will go bust but you are happy as long as you have waranty?
How do we measure quality? Obviously your a carnut because you talk about cars all day long, you drive what you love, hopefully, you defend your brand to the fullest, but I think quality is a relative term in the car industry nowadays. Quality means a lot of things to many different people...to me, when I sit in my 147 I can still smell the Italian leather, I sit low and hugged by those sports seats, the dash is not plasticky...the red dials and red lights...that to me is quality, when i cruise on the highway...I put foot in 5th and it goes, that to me is engineering, the quiet, the comfort even though its lowered on H&R springs...that to me is quality...that Yaris is not quality...what to you in your car, signifies quality?
but it goes well) and reliability. I take it out for a walk on a race track every now and then, (not that I'm setting any lap records, but still have loads of fun) to clean out the rush hour grind. 
Renaults etc.