When a new car isn't actually new

acidrain said:
Warranty is from date of first registration so if there is a discrepancy then yes you have bought a second hand car as the car has already been registered previously as so the warranty has already begun.

That said, the article hasn't said that the car was previously registered but just that the manufacture date is years before its registration date which doesn't make it a used car. It just means the car has been sitting for a very long time.
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Date of registration here refers to the date when the dealership registers the car on the system. My car was new but pre - sold like in many cases as even y mileage was less than 5km.

I've engaged the ombudsman and many dealer principles whom I know personally and they have confirmed that some dealerships engage in pre - selling cars. The date of first registration you are referring to is the date which the vehicle is registered on the enatis to be licenced.
 
momo235 said:
Date of registration here refers to the date when the dealership registers the car on the system. My car was new but pre - sold like in many cases as even y mileage was less than 5km.

I've engaged the ombudsman and many dealer principles whom I know personally and they have confirmed that some dealerships engage in pre - selling cars. The date of first registration you are referring to is the date which the vehicle is registered on the enatis to be licenced.
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Both dates should be identical ( on enatis and the manufacturers system ). If i understand you correctly, you are saying some dealers load the cars onto the manufacturers system to falsify a sale and in turn raise their sales. In which case I would agree that is very underhanded and I would think illegal but again this is not mentioned in the FP so one can only assume that both registrations are the same, with the only difference being that it was manufactured years prior.
 
acidrain said:
Both dates should be identical ( on enatis and the manufacturers system ). If i understand you correctly, you are saying some dealers load the cars onto the manufacturers system to falsify a sale and in turn raise their sales. In which case I would agree that is very underhanded and I would think illegal but again this is not mentioned in the FP so one can only assume that both registrations are the same, with the only difference being that it was manufactured years prior.
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Sorry I might have not come across clearly. You are correct, I meant that the 2 systems don't match in some instances, including when stock is sitting for a long time where the dealer books it on the internal system showing it as sold then moving it over to their second hand sales and sell it saying it's a brand new car.

Again these are situations that occur and may not be the situation in the article. I'm just stating it as 1 of the issues to be aware of.
 
This is a little extreme, but nothing strange or unusual in principle. Some cars stand on dealer floors for a while before they're sold; only crappy cars stand around for years before being sold and registered as new... which they still are. The problem here isn't buying a car that's stood around, it's buying a Chinese ****-box and expecting anything other than hassles and headaches. Apart from the oxidation and perished rubbers, most of the issues mentioned sound about on par for a new QQ3.

Caveat emptor.
 
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Is there stamp or plate on the car that states the date of manufacture?

The battery, the tyres or any other component that is supplied by original equipment manufacturer?
 
I think the problem here, is that if the car was in "Like new" condition, the owner would have probably not noticed the discrepancy.

Let's take a Suzuki Alto for instance, it doesn't cost a lot more, but if it had to sit in storage for 2 years I can almost guarantee that it would not be rusted and have the door seals and engine rubbers perished. Nor would there probably be any "rust" in the engine bay as described in the article.

So you do have to wonder just how cheaply these cars are built indeed.

Still, shocking service from a dealer, surely the cars they are selling to people are being inspected somewhat? Where's the quality control here?
 
I bought a Chevy Spark in January of 2014, it was manufactured in Oct of 2013, so yeah cars can stand for a few months and still be classified as new. The QQ3 should've been checked fully by the dealer before it was given to the purchaser though, I mean rusty engine and seals that have perished after two years is ridiculous.
 
Sad that these days the consumer gets nowhere without having to go through some ombuds or newspaper columnist....
 
Avoid Imperial Select dealership in Boksburg! Poor form on their part to deceive its customers
 
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