i have noticed that when pages do not load i go to command and ping iburst and WOW it goes so fast all of a sudden ???? wierd but true- probably use my cap up quicker but............anyway i think we should all sue IBURST AND TELKOM for being monopolies - in the USA they would be illegal -bastards
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evilsee
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well, my ikük is runny super slow this morning, nornally I download at about 30KB/s now its more like 2-5KB/s and Im not even capped.
Also I could not connect for about 30 mins the morning and when it did connect I could not surf, now its working, but very slow. I think there bandwidth management SW is stuffed up .
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Also I could not connect for about 30 mins the morning and when it did connect I could not surf, now its working, but very slow. I think there bandwidth management SW is stuffed up .
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Instead of just shooting down other people’s comments, I prefer to listen to them, see that they are pretty emotional. Then understand the context of their post:
From what I read, I see that the frustrations experienced can easily be accounted to characteristics of a monopolised industry.
Iburst is not a monopoly, but it could be classified as an Oligopoly:
[Qoute]Oligopoly
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
An oligopoly is a market form in which a market is dominated by a small number of sellers (oligopolists). The word is derived from the Greek for few sellers. Because there are few participants in this type of market, each oligopolist is aware of the actions of the others. Oligopolistic markets are characterised by interactivity. The decisions of one firm influence, and are influenced by, the decisions of other firms. Strategic planning by oligopolists always involves taking into account the likely responses of the other market participants.
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Typically in IBurst's case:
They did not have to worry about other market participants. If the market were a perfect market, then they would have lost ALL their customers in doing what they had done.
The suggested practise of pinging as suggested above (Pinging IBURST) could be a solution. It might actually help with browsing.
Ps. the beauty of constructive critiscm
From what I read, I see that the frustrations experienced can easily be accounted to characteristics of a monopolised industry.
Iburst is not a monopoly, but it could be classified as an Oligopoly:
[Qoute]Oligopoly
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
An oligopoly is a market form in which a market is dominated by a small number of sellers (oligopolists). The word is derived from the Greek for few sellers. Because there are few participants in this type of market, each oligopolist is aware of the actions of the others. Oligopolistic markets are characterised by interactivity. The decisions of one firm influence, and are influenced by, the decisions of other firms. Strategic planning by oligopolists always involves taking into account the likely responses of the other market participants.
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Typically in IBurst's case:
They did not have to worry about other market participants. If the market were a perfect market, then they would have lost ALL their customers in doing what they had done.
The suggested practise of pinging as suggested above (Pinging IBURST) could be a solution. It might actually help with browsing.
Ps. the beauty of constructive critiscm
nocilah
Banned
i think slimothy is just angry today. what's up slim?
nocilah
Banned
is there a nifty ping utility instead of using cmd?
and BTW if you ping anyone ping www.iburst.co.za
if enough people ping it over a long enough period of time the site could get DDOS'd so it will keep your connection smooth and add a little hacktivism
if enough people ping it over a long enough period of time the site could get DDOS'd so it will keep your connection smooth and add a little hacktivism
There is no evidence that the problem was ever fixed by WBS, since WBS never actually acknowledged that a problem ever existed - not to me anyways, although I was surprised one day when Satan told me on the phone that I should always run a ping to www.iburst.co.za in the background (as if this was something you do with all internet connections...slimothy said:
). I have occasionally resorted to running the background ping again when speedlessness is unbearable, so I would say the problem was simply ignored by WBS and never given any attention or ever fixed 
.LOL....you not related to bitchacker by any chance?craigsa said:
iBurst or rather the company WBS, is not a monopoly. You can also not sue for someone doing something illegal. Microsoft was not sued for being a monopoly. They were taken to court, ordered to make changes and fined. You could sue for damanges caused by their illegal activity, but unless you are another phone company (which in itself means you are either the SNO or you are running illegally) you don't have a leg to stand on.craigsa said:
Spoken to support yet? Tried rebooting your side? Cleaned your box of viruses and adware. Come on people blaming someone else is too easy...why not run through your side first?evilsee said:
You imply slim was shooting down a post? I don't think so. He corrected a user...it's called helpinglouisp said:
Here is a tissue and 30c to call a care bear to anyone that feels emotionallouisp said:
No, it's laughable and probebly it's because of something the user has on there machine like a firewall, proxy etc...louisp said:
Um, cmd doesn't ping. The ping command in the command prompt pings. There are a few others out there, but why do you want them? A continuous ping or what exactly are you trying to do that the normal tool doesn't do?halicon said:
Highly doubt it. All WBS would need to do is filter out ICMP traffic from there internal network and viola problem sorted, unless you going to get ADSL and Sentech users in or you have a botnet floating around?slimothy said:
nocilah
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DFantom said:
i know. cmd opens a dos window(from the run command) and in that dos window you do your pings. but i shortened my question trying to establish wether there is an app out there that does that for me... lets say at a click of a button?
no dos was taken out of windows 98, cmd opens a cmd.exe window
and yes there are apps that can do this in the click of a button:
http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=ping&tg=dl-2001&search.x=0&search.y=0&search=+Go!+
and yes there are apps that can do this in the click of a button:
http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=ping&tg=dl-2001&search.x=0&search.y=0&search=+Go!+
DFantom, I'm not being sarcastic here, but you are operating under the assumption that WBS is any normal ISP that provides an Internet connection that just works, well I ask you to please familiarise yourself with the following:DFantom said:
[post=154996]If your connection is very slow, you might need this workaround...[/post]
There is no evidence of which I am aware, that WBS ever investigated that problem, or that they bothered to resolve it - we are talking about a WBS iBurst network problem that has been around since 23rd or 24th December 2004!
respect,
not saying slimothy wasn't trying to help... He prob knows more of IT than I ever would.
Was just trying to add some constructive info.
And I still think pinging can help, even if the system is screwed by ad-ware, virus etc. the root of the problem is propably something else, but pinging overcomes the problem as an interim solution.
If a client says that he has trouble browsing, he then start to ping, and "viola" problem solved. How can that be laughable? Rather use that bit of information to help start looking for the real problem.
not saying slimothy wasn't trying to help... He prob knows more of IT than I ever would.
Was just trying to add some constructive info.
And I still think pinging can help, even if the system is screwed by ad-ware, virus etc. the root of the problem is propably something else, but pinging overcomes the problem as an interim solution.
If a client says that he has trouble browsing, he then start to ping, and "viola" problem solved. How can that be laughable? Rather use that bit of information to help start looking for the real problem.
nocilah
Banned
slimothy said:
sorry in my non-it world i call it the dos window
but we both wrong: its called the command prompt
ta for the link!
heres a better piece of information, you don't have to nail 32byte pings, you can do 1byte pings and they do the exact same thing, assuming you get 4 pings a second (which you dont you probably do around 2 a second, or even 1) but pinging with a 1byte ping for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for a month you chew up about 9.8MB, which is nothing
to ping with 1byte instead of 32 (the windows default) you just do this
ping -t -l 1 www.iburst.co.za
now for the real figure, you probably do about 1 ping a second, remember even if the ping result is in miliseconds you only send 1 per second on average and if you send 1 byte per ping and do it for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week in a month you'll chew 2.4MB in a month
to ping with 1byte instead of 32 (the windows default) you just do this
ping -t -l 1 www.iburst.co.za
now for the real figure, you probably do about 1 ping a second, remember even if the ping result is in miliseconds you only send 1 per second on average and if you send 1 byte per ping and do it for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week in a month you'll chew 2.4MB in a month
As I said beforehalicon said:
DFantom said:
MUHAHAHAHAHAHAic said:
There is no such thing as an ISP that "just works".
I know it, and I think it's also debatable. I have personally never seen speed improve because of a ping, and I have tried.ic said:
ok look back in the prelaunch around january at times, maybe 4 or 5 times i noticed it eliminated stuttering, especially with non priority services, but as far as I am aware the ping trick hasn't done anythign other than chew up bandwith since around march