Where do you draw the line?

[Voltorr]

Was watching the rugby yesterday with mates and the crime/immigration conversation came up, surprise, surprise.

Don't you think safety from criminals is even more of a right than education..... comparing the two i would say education or health care are even privileges.

Long story short, I was lambasted because i said i would draw the line when i felt i couldn't safely go to the shops at 1 or 2 in the morning for whatever reason i chose. In turn i was told that i was insane to go to the shop at that time, not just crazy but actually looking to get robbed and DESERVE it!

Come on, things aren't that bad and sure maybe chances are higher but i did it in Jhb and do it in Cpt.

I can understand women being a bit cautious, but am i the only person who thinks it's my right to go to the shops when i please and not be looking for a adrenaline rush?

What would be enough for you? When would the looking over your shoulder get to be too much? Malema as president? Removal of farmlands? What would need to happen for you to seriously consider leaving the land you love so much?

 

[ponder]

I have no issues going to the shops any time of the 24hrs in a day. Maybe it's just the area.

Some mornings if I've missed my sleeping 'window' I go for a drive to the beach at like 3-4am stopping at the 24hr shops/garages for something to drink or so.

 

[CorneN]

Voltorr. You'd be cautious once it actually affects you. Example...

I used to find it funny that people were overly cautious about walking around in JHb CBD during DAYLIGHT! It took two one mugging on a sidewalk and a 9mil through my car window to change my mind.

 

[Voltorr]

Voltorr. You'd be cautious once it actually affects you. Example...

I used to find it funny that people were overly cautious about walking around in JHb CBD during DAYLIGHT! It took two one mugging on a sidewalk and a 9mil through my car window to change my mind.

I hear you, but i feel if it got to that stage for me it would be enough. If something happened and i could carry on living without being nervous then so be it, if not, if i could no longer live without a constant fear of the worst happening..... well i'm not sure i, myself, personally could live like that.

 

[alloytoo]

Was watching the rugby yesterday with mates and the crime/immigration conversation came up, surprise, surprise.

Don't you think safety from criminals is even more of a right than education..... comparing the two i would say education or health care are even privileges.

Long story short, I was lambasted because i said i would draw the line when i felt i couldn't safely go to the shops at 1 or 2 in the morning for whatever reason i chose. In turn i was told that i was insane to go to the shop at that time, not just crazy but actually looking to get robbed and DESERVE it!

Come on, things aren't that bad and sure maybe chances are higher but i did it in Jhb and do it in Cpt.

I can understand women being a bit cautious, but am i the only person who thinks it's my right to go to the shops when i please and not be looking for a adrenaline rush?

What would be enough for you? When would the looking over your shoulder get to be too much? Malema as president? Removal of farmlands? What would need to happen for you to seriously consider leaving the land you love so much?

Gang hit 400m while waiting for my son's pre-school to open, that WAS the line.

 

[nikjem]

Well, I think The premise here is that people all have many demands on their time and that by setting boundaries they may protect their time and energy for the things that matter most. Being in complete agreement with this idea.

 

[Archer]

Education > safety
Education > health
Why? Because a proper education will decrease violent crime, and people will generally live healthier. Education improves so many areas of life in general that it should be near the top of the list of priorities for every society.