Where to start with working with Raspberry PI OS?

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I'm used to working with Windows and MacOS but Linux/RPI I have no fudging clue.. sudo what!??
I tried installing a RealVNC server so I can use it headless but fk me if just doing that is too much, I downloaded the install package from RealVNC and I have absolutely no clue how to install it :(

Any help for this n00b would be appreciated, I want to install RealVNC, then Plex and Home Assistant
 
backstreetboy said:
Realvnc doesn't work with the new RPI OS anymore since they moved to Wayland. Welcome to Linux.
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Thanks, Linux looks like a pita but I probably just need to get to know the basics.
It's on a RPI 4, does that use Wayland?
RealVNC Viewer is installed and it opens and seems to work fine but I need to install RealVNC server so I can control it from my Windows PC.
 
airborne said:
Anydesk is what I normally use but they don't support RPI currently?

Weird then that RPI installs RealVNC as one of the default apps, it starts up and seems to work fine, it can see my desktop just I can't see it because it's not running as a server.
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airborne said:
Yes you can download it but it won't open, there was something on their website about it not working
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Just remembered, they only supposed 32bit RPI installs, I have 64bit installed.
How much of a performance hit will I take if I rather install 32bit?

AnyDesk for Raspberry Pi​

Supported Hardware and Operating System:

  • Raspberry Pi 2
  • Raspberry Pi 3
  • Raspberry Pi 4/400
  • Only ARMHF-based Raspberry Pi OS (not 64bit) is supported
 
airborne said:
I'm used to working with Windows and MacOS but Linux/RPI I have no fudging clue.. sudo what!??
I tried installing a RealVNC server so I can use it headless but fk me if just doing that is too much, I downloaded the install package from RealVNC and I have absolutely no clue how to install it :(

Any help for this n00b would be appreciated, I want to install RealVNC, then Plex and Home Assistant
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Install DietPi
It's got pre-bundled components for many apps,easy to select via an install menu,and is Debian-based like Rasppi-OS
 
PsyWulf said:
Install DietPi
It's got pre-bundled components for many apps,easy to select via an install menu,and is Debian-based like Rasppi-OS
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I've heard about that one, is it 64 or 32bit?
What's the best VNC for these Os, ideally I’d like to use Anydesk as that's what I’m used to.
 
You can install a Desktop Experience but that's not really what they're about. You're wanting to do Plex and HA - neither need a Desktop
You SSH to the Pi - it's like a command prompt
Then do your thing
 
PsyWulf said:
You can install a Desktop Experience but that's not really what they're about. You're wanting to do Plex and HA - neither need a Desktop
You SSH to the Pi - it's like a command prompt
Then do your thing
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Using a VNC is so convenient though, I have zero experience with SSH and it doesn't seem to have a user friendly GUI of any sort?
 
airborne said:
I'm assuming you need to do absolutely everything via the terminal?
Including setting up programs and transferring/moving files?
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Well you can install the desktop os,install a VNC or similar and still do the majority of the software installs you're looking to do via command line since most software is command line :laugh:
An SFTP client can connect to the SSH to transfer files easy enough
 
First off, I'm no Linux guru. But I do have a few Pi's running in the house. One has a display. The others operate headless.

If possible, why not drop back a Raspberry Pi OS version like say " Bullseye " which has a VNC Server installed and only needs enabled to get the GUI goodness you're looking for ?

Now come the gotchas

1 ) Installing HA on the Pi without using the HA customized image is a mission. Something I never managed to get right in the way I wanted to do it. And if you use their image, you're not going to be able to get Plex installed. So you might want to consider going the HA in a Docker container route. You will however loose access to the HA Add-Ons. But I live comfortably without those with my HA instance running in a Docker container on a NAS

2 ) On the fly transcoding with Plex battles on the Pi's. I haven't tried a Pi5 yet. But the 3B+ for example just doesn't have the chops. That said, Plex Direct Play works fine. Plex can also run in a Docker container

See where I'm going here ?
 
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hilt_ctn said:
First off, I'm no Linux guru. But I do have a few Pi's running in the house. One has a display. The others operate headless.

If possible, why not drop back a Raspberry Pi OS version like say " Bullseye " which has a VNC Server installed and only needs enabled to get the GUI goodness you're looking for ?
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I might give that a try but surely there is a way to get VNC on stock RPi, it can't be that complicated?
My RPi is setup and running great now but I'd really like to be able to have VNC access, that would seal the deal.
hilt_ctn said:
Now come the gotchas

1 ) Installing HA on the Pi without using the HA customized image is a mission. Something I never managed to get right in the way I wanted to do it. And if you use their image, you're not going to be able to get Plex installed. So you might want to consider going the HA in a Docker container route. You will however loose access to the HA Add-Ons. But I live comfortably without those with my HA instance running in a Docker container on a NAS
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I didn't realise installing HA was such a mission, I thought you could just install the app like any other app?
hilt_ctn said:
2 ) On the fly transcoding with Plex battles on the Pi's. I haven't tried a Pi5 yet. But the 3B+ for example just doesn't have the chops. That said, Plex Direct Play works fine. Plex can also run in a Docker container

See where I'm going here ?
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I don't need transcoding, I have Jellyfin up and running fine on the RPi, very cool.

I can see the advantage of a NAS with Docker containers but that requires an expensive NAS plus UPS to run it, a RPi is cheap and cheerful and will run off a Fibre mini UPS.
 
Seems TigerVNC will work on the latest RPi 64bit, anyone have experience with that?
 
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