Where to study programming

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Which would be the best university to study programming, preferrably in Durban? I want to study either C++ or C#, not sure which one yet. But definitly not Java or any other language. Anyone know if such a place exists?
 

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Out of interest, why not Java? I'm doing my Information Technology and Systems degree at Monash.
 

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Where's Monash? I really really really hate Java. I do it at school. It's a good language and all, and it's very portable, but I find it to be too slow, and sometimes a bit buggy too. It once crashed my computer. I'll never forgive it for that...
 

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Monash is JHB, I'm afraid. Eh, I'm a Java man...I did it in High School, and I loved it. The thing is, the languages are all very similar. You could also teach yourself C#/C++. AFAIK, they do C++ at UJ in the Computer Engineering (or similar) degree. Not sure about Durban, though, sorry.
 

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Ah OK thanks. Yeah I've taught myself BASIC, Visual Basic, C, C++, Assembly, C# and PHP (In that order). I'm only good in C# and PHP thought... I'd like to do C++ at university but I think it might be on the way out, and being replaced by languages such as C# and Java.
 

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Ah OK thanks. Yeah I've taught myself BASIC, Visual Basic, C, C++, Assembly, C# and PHP (In that order). I'm only good in C# and PHP thought... I'd like to do C++ at university but I think it might be on the way out, and being replaced by languages such as C# and Java.

No ways!!!!

Maybe because businesses (corporates) are interested in the product in a timely fashion, then yes.

But I can guarantee you, if you have proof that you STUDIED C++, then businesses, who specialise in development, know that it would take you a VERY short time to master RAD languages such as C#.

Do C++, cross-platform, very open career path...

C++ programmers are know to be slightly "better", because they need to know much more from the language, than C#, to do the same things...

That being said, C# is a good option.

:)
 

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Ah OK thanks. Yeah I've taught myself BASIC, Visual Basic, C, C++, Assembly, C# and PHP (In that order). I'm only good in C# and PHP thought... I'd like to do C++ at university but I think it might be on the way out, and being replaced by languages such as C# and Java.

Just remember that programming is just a small part of a University IT course. You'll actually spend most of your time studing programming and design methodologies and algorithms rather than actual programming languages.

When you leave you'll de able to adapt what you've learnt to any new language that comes along in the future.
 

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Just remember that programming is just a small part of a University IT course. You'll actually spend most of your time studing programming and design methodologies and algorithms rather than actual programming languages.

When you leave you'll de able to adapt what you've learnt to any new language that comes along in the future.

Very true. That's why most use Java to teach advance design methods. Because of its simplistic but very powerfull nature. So sadly if you go and study programming at university level Java will certainly be part of the package.

Trust me there is not a lot wrong with Java. I study Electronic Engineering with Focus on Computer Science at Stellenbosch. And Java was a great way to learn about Abstract data types and generics.
 

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Hmm... Java... Looks like I'll have to go with that. Thanks for the replies guys.
 

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Be careful with C++ - it is fast becoming ultra specialist in the industry, meaning more and more companies are less prone to use C++ skills. Java and .Net languages are now become mainstream. That said, C++ is probably one of the best foundations you can get.
 

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Which would be the best university to study programming, preferrably in Durban? I want to study either C++ or C#, not sure which one yet. But definitly not Java or any other language. Anyone know if such a place exists?

Personally, if you want to learn how to develop, don't look to a particular language. If you want to learn a language, buy a good book or go online. There's an amazing amount of knowledge available to you, for free. I'm busy with my CS degree (UNISA), and the modules have ranged from Pascal to Delphi, C, C++, Java - oh, and Assembly. As mentioned above, a programming course doesn't so much teach you the language as much as it teaches you the concepts behind EVERY language.

Enjoy the studies - every step makes you more marketable, and you get to understand those obscure acronyms at the same time! :p
 

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How many C# developers make R40k+ pm? I know a lot of Java developers who make that much. Java is a very powerful and fun language IMO. I love it!
 

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How many C# developers make R40k+ pm? I know a lot of Java developers who make that much. Java is a very powerful and fun language IMO. I love it!

You're looking at one. Web Development too. The jobs are out there. I've done Java too - give me .Net any day, thanks.

However, it's often a personal preference, this C#/Java thing. I love reading flame wars though. :rolleyes:
 

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You're looking at one. Web Development too. The jobs are out there. I've done Java too - give me .Net any day, thanks.

However, it's often a personal preference, this C#/Java thing. I love reading flame wars though. :rolleyes:

Loving Java and the money but I kinda wanna do both ;)
 

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Loving Java and the money but I kinda wanna do both ;)
Ya know, that wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm totally fluent (and comfortable) in both VB.Net and C# environments, and it sure comes in handy when you get the job offer that says "converting from VB to C#" - or when your interviewer asks you what language you write in. :D

Anyway, I imagine that .Net and Java could really open some doors hitherto closed?
 

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So seeing as I'm going to have to learn to love Java... Would DUT be a good place to study?
 

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DUT = Durban University of Technology (Formerly Durban Institute of Technology)
 
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